Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism

Religion on the Fringe Theories Noticeboard

There is currently a discussion concerning the question of religion and whether or not it is an appropriate subject for the Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Experienced editors are encouraged to join the conversation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The responses from many FTN regulars do not exactly inspire confidence that FTN is capable of reflecting on the recent policy violations associated with its culture. What kind of next steps are available? ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hell in Catholicism

This page is in quite a state. Unreliable/non-independent sources, skewed interpretations, odd omissions. Currently, Hell in Christianity's Catholic section has a more robust and balanced approach to the topic. I'd like to make this page a more useful resource. Is there anyone who would like to work on improving the article with me?

Ideally, I'd like to split the article's work into sections. I think the current section breakdown is... fine, but could probably be improved. If anyone wants to work on getting this, at least to B status with me, please ping me and we can work out a plan! ThaesOfereode (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Appeal under canon law

It's bizarre that I can't find any treatment of this on Wikipedia. At minimum, Appeal (law) and Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law should be linking to a brief treatment wherever it is and Appeal (canon law) and Appeal (Catholicism) should be redirecting to it. For example, when Abelard "appealed" the charges/sentence of the 1141 Council of Sens to Innocent II, was that a formal procedure within canon law and the papal bureaucracy to annul the decision as mistaken? or was it just a letter to the guy asking for a Dispensation (Catholic canon law) to override the decision as lord of the Church?

If it's the first one, we should have a landing page to improve discussion of how it worked. If it's the second, we should have a section about such appeals (using that word) somewhere on the Dispensation page.

Entirely separately, the Jurisprudence article should link to Appeal as from an abuse and discuss that a bit, but that seems to specifically be about people forum shopping between civil and canon law outlets and not appeal within the canon law system itself. — LlywelynII 03:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Romanus Cessario

I recently started a draft for Romanus Cessario. Any help finding source material would be appreciated. Best, Thriley (talk) 20:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Is the Pope the "visible head" or the "Earthly head" of the church?

Talk:Pope#Visible_head Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 00:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Dawid2009 (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding the complete text of a papal bull (Pius V, 1569)

I added a row on a bull regarding the Lateran here: List of papal bulls. I found a reference for it (the dissertation of a now-retired professor), and he sent me the text via email because the dissertation is only available on microfilm. There may be another source for the text, but I haven't found one yet.

I'll make a new page for this bull, and do a brief summary of it. I wonder, though, if I can add the full text of it on that page? Even if it's available in a book somewhere, I'm sure it's not available online. It's about 1000 words in English. From looking at other individual bull articles, I don't see this done. Another idea might be to submit it to archive.org and link to that from here. Unclevinny (talk) 20:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@Unclevinny: Hi! Please do not add the full bull to the article, as MOS:BLOCKQUOTE indicates the standard for what constitutes an acceptable extended quotation is between 40 and a few hundred words. You can add it as a handy external link and include a couple of quotes from it, though. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

If the professor releases their dissertation into the public domain for WikiSource or allows it on Archive.org, those would be excellent landing places for the dissertation. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll see if he would like to release it publicly, for now all I have is a .pdf with a few Appendices. Even if that falls through, though, I can just quote a few key sections of it and cite the dissertation if anyone wants more details. Thanks for the link to the BLOCKQUOTE standard! I figured there was a rule, just wasn't sure what the limit was. Unclevinny (talk) 05:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I think just to clarify, the original Papal Bull in Italian would be in the public domain, and likely eligible for inclusion in Wikisource. However, it sounds like the professor sent a translation as part of the dissertation. The translation might be subject to copyright, and the author/translator would have to release or appropriately license the work to upload to Wikipedia or Wikisource. However, quoting the translation would be fine. The original need not be available online for it to be quoted. –Zfish118^⋉talk 22:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Rereading my above comments, I'm sorry if I only implied what Zfish118 said, which is absolutely correct. Portions of a translation can be quoted in part, but (unless it's in the public domain) it can't be uploaded to WikiSource. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral

Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Aleteia at WP:RSN

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard regarding the reliability of Aleteia. The thread is Aleteia. Thank you. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Leon Podles

I recently created Draft:Leon Podles. It may be of interest to members of this project. Thriley (talk) 16:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Syro-Malabar_Church has an RfC

Syro-Malabar_Church, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for renaming. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. 207.96.32.81 (talk) 16:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)