Wikipedia talk:Administrator intervention against vandalism

Why do we have a “block user” button on here?

I’m just curious as to why there is a “block user” button on the actual page itself? That button got me confused because I was just being nosy looking at the block log and accidentally clicked the other button and well obviously I’m not a sysop so it shows up as “permission error”; again, begs the question as to why these buttons are visible for all editors and not just editors that have permissions? (Eg. Admins and checkusers, and etc.) Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

And I’m going to ask the similar question as to why we have a button saying “deleted contribs” and “nuke contribs” the latter of which I have absolutely no idea what that even means); and both of which requires a sysop flag. Why are these buttons visible to normal editors as well? It makes no sense to me. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

The {{vandal}} template doesn't have any way of knowing if you are an admin or not, so it displays these links so that admins can have easy access. I wonder if there is any technical/performance reason not to use something like {{if administrator}} to hide these links. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 20:52, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

With the block option, at least, it could probably just be removed. Does anyone use that to block? I always block from the contribs page after verifying a block is necessary. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I think most probably block from there, but I don't think that should preclude someone who doesn't, say, from opening both contribs and the block page. Or since they were mentioned, deleted contribs and nuke contribs.

@Jake Wartenberg, the immediate template doesn't like just plugging that in. You'd have to change {{user-multi}}, and I would expect that to require some actual effort. I think working on that would be beneficial for other templates as well. Izno (talk) 17:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I do a large proportion of contrib-browsing, and also check warning timestamps, using popups which means with many vandals I often don't have to leave the page and can click on the nearest block link. If you're not using popups, I highly recommend it. This is really a page for admins to do admin stuff, so I'm content with having admin links on it (but if you want to delve into the complications, whatever). -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 17:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

The reason I was even over here in the first place was because GeorgeMemulous pinged me over here in an edit summary because some troll had impersonated me and left a fake user warning on another admin’s talk page. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 18:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)