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Fortnite Chapter 5 Season 2: Myths and Mortals edit
- Fortnite Chapter 5 Season 2: Myths and Mortals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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We do not have articles for video game "seasons" unless there is a very clear reason why it warrants a separate article (aka meeting notability), which this does not. Also falls into WP:GAMEGUIDE and WP:GAMECRUFT territory. λ NegativeMP1 00:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. No reason that this article with its questionable sources and zero claim to enough notability to warrant a separate article should be one. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This article is not well sourced and could very well be fit into the parent article rather than be split off. And as Negative mentioned, this is a very GAMECRUFT filled article. CaptainGalaxy 00:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Move to Fortnite: Myths and Mortals and redirect to Fortnite Battle Royale#Chapter 5 It's plausible someone would be looking for the season episode title and details, but they aren't going to type in every bit of the current title. The main article covers it much more appropriate than this text that belongs on a more appropriate Fandom. Nate • (chatter) 00:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
SpongeBob SquarePants (disambiguation) edit
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The disambiguation page fails WP:DAB as it only lists one topic and not many topics, thus not making it a valid DAB. It's also a good idea to delete the dab pages that redirect to that page as well. kpgamingz (rant me) 19:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep SpongeBob SquarePants (the series), SpongeBob SquarePants (character), SpongeBob SquarePants (film series), SpongeBob SquarePants (franchise), and SpongeBob SquarePants (musical) have the same title although they are of the same universe. They are all different pages SpongeBob SquarePants lists the character as another article, and then refers to this disambigation page for other pages of the same name. Changing the "for other uses" on the header to refer to each of these would make it unwieldy. This page refers to a series, character, and other areas. It is more than one topic although they are related. — AMK152 (t • c) 20:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- I get that, but dab articles are for unrelated topics. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Powerpuff Girls (disambiguation) for an example. kpgamingz (rant me) 20:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep There can be a series page for related topics while also having a DAB page for identically named topics, those are different things. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Kpgamingz says that "dab articles are for unrelated topics", but I see no evidence of that in the WP:DAB article. Did I miss it? If not, I think Kpgamingz is misinterpreting WP:DAB: each of the things listed is a "topic" as referred to in WP:DAB. This disambiguation page seems extremely helpful. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I think the nominator doesn't understand WP:DAB (or I'm being stupid), but it looks like it disambiguates between a bunch of pages. In particular:
- "Disambiguation is required whenever, for a given word or phrase on which a reader might search, there is more than one existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead"
- "The page at Rice is about one usage, called the primary topic, and there is a hatnote guiding readers to Rice (disambiguation) to find the other uses." Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Per @User:AMK152. Svartner (talk) 09:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Snow Keep plenty of different assumptive uses for this DAB page. AMK152 put it best. Conyo14 (talk) 16:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Stick Soldiers edit
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Fails the general notability guideline but I would appreciate a sanity check from someone more experienced in videogames. – Teratix ₵ 12:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Stick Soldiers 2 has marginal interest from sources with WP:NONENG ([1][2]) or a dubious CNET write-up ([3]) but I think it's comfortable to delete here: those three sources would be shaky ground to establish independent notability for that game, and the other games and the series as a whole seem not to have enough coverage to merit an article. VRXCES (talk) 08:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Ganbare Goemon Kirakira Dōchū: Boku ga Dancer ni Natta Wake edit
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Does not meet WP:NGAME. Not enough coverage in reliable secondary sources. Does not need its own article. Clearfrienda 💬 02:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Meets WP:GNG, articles by reliable sources Destructoid (by staff editor see: [4]), Hardcore Gaming 101, plus Japanese language version of the article lists 2 print reviews: [5] - Mika1h (talk) 10:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Very clear evidence that the article passes WP:GNG. I would suggest the nominator withdraw. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above, meets GNG Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - There are sources talking about the game out there, which pretty much establish that it's a notable game. It's just that the article is poorly structured but can be improved. Roberth Martinez (talk) 16:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Matt Alt edit
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Fails WP:GNG. The only source that meets GNG criteria is the article from The Japan Times. Normally, I would probably draftify, but the article has already been accepted previously at AfC by User:14 novembre. Most of what I found online was not independent of the subject. GMH Melbourne (talk) 09:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Granny (video game series) edit
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Unfortunately non-notable as per WP:GNG on the basis of the lack of reliable sourcing and in-depth reviews. Know Your Meme and WikiHow are pretty cut and dry WP:USERG. A WP:BEFORE finds some brief analysis of a gameplay mechanic in the game in Game Rant [8] and some even briefer listicle-type assessments of the game in TheGamer [9] and Sportskeeda [10]. But I think this is well below the level of coverage needed as a whole if using the WP:THREE method. There isn't good guidance on notability for a series, but if there was one or two reviews out there for the other games, I would argue that a series such as this is not notable where (1) there's no in-depth coverage of the series as a whole body of work; and (2) none of the individual works in the series seem they would be independently notable. At any rate, open to views. VRXCES (talk) 07:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Wikipedia is not promotion and requires notability for an article to be made. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Simply not notable per WP:GNG like you said. TheWikiToby (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Out of respect for the article creator, just flagging that @Bennett1203: has added more sources to the article to "suppress deletion", although these seem to be the Steam and IMDb pages and the sources listed above. Of course they're definitely welcome to participate in the discussion if desired!
- Courtesy pinging Bennett1203 in case they haven't seen this comment (it is unsigned so the ping didn't work). ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 18:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I am well aware of this yet I didn’t think to reply! At this point, this article was something I did because I wanted to help Wikipedia, however you guys can decide the deletion. Bennett1203 (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Sago Sago edit
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Unfortunately the article currently falls well short of WP:GNG and WP:CORP. The article's three cited sources are either bulletin-style without commentary or trivial; regardless generally not WP:SIGCOV about the background of the company. A WP:BEFORE finds a lot of Sago products online but only a Verge product review and a staff interview from Kidscreen (?) seem to enter the standard of coverage needed. I imagine there may be more out there though. There's also a naming issue: if Sago Mini is the current name of the company, the article should not be called Sago Sago unless there is enormous coverage on the former state which is not the case. An obvious WP:ATD is to WP:MERGE what little there is to Toca Boca or Spin Master. Welcome any thoughts, particularly from users that are more experienced with notability pertaining to companies in this sector. VRXCES (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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- We need to keep it forever by expanding it Tomasz22334 (talk) 23:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- And the references too Tomasz22334 (talk) 23:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- And even renaming it to Sago Mini Tomasz22334 (talk) 23:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand it can be a bit disappointing if there is consensus that the article is not notable. WP:GNG is generally a threshold for determining what articles should be included on Wikipedia because there is sufficient coverage to show that the subject merits an article. On keeping an article that doesn't quite meet that standard but could in the future, there's always the ability to develop an article in WP:DRAFT and we can definitely WP:DRAFTIFY the article as an option that doesn't involve deleting anything you've done. VRXCES (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please expand it, add more references and rename and move it to Sago Mini to keep it forever as a result. Tomasz22334 (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's something that's up to you or an interested editor to do. The AFD discussion here is about whether the subject itself has enough coverage to merit an article in the first place. Although hopefully this discussion can settle whether there's reliable coverage out there. VRXCES (talk) 00:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please expand it, add more references and rename and move it to Sago Mini to keep it forever as a result. Tomasz22334 (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- And the references too Tomasz22334 (talk) 23:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- We need to keep it forever by expanding it Tomasz22334 (talk) 23:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. As far as I can tell, most of the information on it comes from either sellers of its products, or distributers of the TV show "Sago Mini Friends". Although it is a Spin Master brand, I don't know if there's enough verifiable information on it to justify a merge (especially since the Spin Master page already has most of the information that I could find). Ships & Space(Edits) 00:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Undo delete Tomasz22334 (talk) 02:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Rick Jay Glen edit
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No sources at all, lacks notability, extreme amounts of fluff - looks very much like just a self-promo page. Hornpipe2 (talk) 03:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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- (comment) having some doubts over whether the IPv6 editor, and also the user "rickory", have a conflict of interest going on with this Hornpipe2 (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sources added. Content has been edited and cut down to remove fluff. 2601:644:9280:7C80:B58D:218D:9C58:17C8 (talk) 20:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- looks WP:REFBOMB - User talk:2601:644:9280:7C80:B58D:218D:9C58:17C8 what is your connection to the subject of this article? Hornpipe2 (talk) 12:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete of the sources that aren't IMDB only one actually mentions the subject in passing. Others don't mention the subject at all, leaving all of the biographical parts of the article unverified. Agree lacks notability. Orange sticker (talk) 15:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Kelly Metzger edit
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This is a non notable voice actor. The article doesn't even meet WP:THREE. The only source I see is for a convention that sources one of her works.
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- Delete: Could find no sources to establish notability. Esw01407 (talk) 16:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. As always, the notability test for actors and actresses is not automatically passed just by listing roles, and requires the provision of WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about her and her roles, but none is present here and I've had about as much luck as the above commenters at finding anything better. Bearcat (talk) 17:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - fails per WP:NACTOR, WP:GNG, and WP:THREE. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The subject specific guideline for voice actors has been met. WP:NACTOR states: The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3045630/ She played one of the three Power Puff girls in all 52 episodes of Powerpuff Girls Z. She played Nya in Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu for 100 episodes. Wikipedia:Notability clearly states "It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG)". You don't have to do both. Also those linking to WP:THREE, kindly ready the personal essay you are linking to, it states don't list more than three sources in an AFD or no one will bother looking them over. Dream Focus 12:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Subject played a significant role in all episodes of one notable work (PPGZ), voiced a primary character in the English version of all episodes of Tara Duncan (TV series), and played one character over 200 times in various iterations of Ninjago. By my reading, this is a clear pass of NACTOR, even for a voice or translation actor. User:Dream Focus and I often disagree, but we agree here WP:THREE is an essay with no relevance to this discussion, and the subject meets the SNG with lots of significant (even repeating) roles in their field. It's a BLP, so I'd like reliable sources about the person, but WP:ENT is met, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 22:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete She's had several significant roles but there is no coverage. Bold in following quotes is added for emphasis WP:Notability (people) (which includes WP:NACTOR) states:
People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.
WP:Notability states :Therefore, topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found, or if the topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia
Even WP:NACTOR only saysmay be considered notable
. Schazjmd (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. I agree that this article may be deleted, since "adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found". I added cite needed tags to request WP:RSs, but another editor deleted them, adding more WP:OR instead. If WP:OR is added again, such as the unreferenced assertion that she voiced x number of episodes, User:Schazjmd, it will convince me that the article ought to be deleted. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is not original research. WP:OR, under primary, states:
- 3. A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. For example, an article about a musician may cite discographies and track listings published by the record label, and an article about a novel may cite passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source.
- So listing information listed in the credits of the primary source, is acceptable. So she voiced Buttercup, one of the three powerpuff girls in the show Powerpuff Girls Z, so was of course credited as being in every single episode. There was not a single episode that didn't have all three girls in it. And if you want to know what year the show was on, you can just click the link to the article for it, or if you want it in this article for some reason, you can just copy it from the primary source without problems. You don't need a secondary source for something no primary source would have any possible reason to lie about. Dream Focus 13:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think you are interpreting WP:OR too narrowly. You are not offering a listing by the publisher of all the episodes showing her name, you are asking the reader to synthesize each individual episode's credits (not easily accessible) to note that her name is listed, and then count up the number of such episodes. Again, if this sort of fancruft is re-added to the article without a WP:RS, it will emphasize the paucity of coverage for this person. Is there really not a single review mentioning any of her performances? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is not original research. WP:OR, under primary, states:
- Comment. I agree that this article may be deleted, since "adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found". I added cite needed tags to request WP:RSs, but another editor deleted them, adding more WP:OR instead. If WP:OR is added again, such as the unreferenced assertion that she voiced x number of episodes, User:Schazjmd, it will convince me that the article ought to be deleted. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Do You Like Horny Bunnies? edit
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fails general notability guideline. ltbdl (talk) 13:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Passes GNG with two sources; they might be hard copy, but they help the article pass, and there are surely digital sources out there easily. Nate • (chatter) 17:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The above analysis is in error: both print sources in the article are WP:TRIVIAL mentions of the title in a listed example of adult games, they fall clearly short of WP:SIGCOV and do not establish WP:GNG. Without doing a WP:BEFORE, stating digital sources out there might establish notability is a WP:SOURCESMUSTEXIST argument. I have looked on WP:VG/SE and the Internet Archive and could only find a situational source review from Jason Venter of Honest Gamers here. One review is not enough coverage to substantiate notability. Maybe there's much more in terms of WP:NONENG sources out there. As ever, happy to change my view if more reliable coverage is found. VRXCES (talk) 22:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Both the game and its sequel got reviews from Absolute Games (review for 1 here, 2 here). Waxworker (talk) 02:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The WIRED article and book excerpt are not actually about the game, but about eroge in general, and mention the game trivially. One Absolute Games review is not going to cut the mustard. MobyGames only lists said review and Animetric, and I am unsure of the reliability of the latter. An Internet Archive search also had only trivial mentions. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 07:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Vrxces's statement. MKsLifeInANutshell (talk) 14:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to ZyX (brand) the developer as ATD. Jumpytoo Talk 05:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 02:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to ZyX. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - fails per WP:NONENG, WP:VG/SE, WP:SOURCESMUSTEXIST, WP:BEFORE, WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:TRIVIAL. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 22:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Googling the Japanese name, エッチなバニーさんは嫌い, within archive.org netted at least two cases of apparent Japanese nontrivial print coverage – Game Criticism Vol. 39 (July 2001) p. 107 and BugBug 2001-05 p. 56.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Favor redirect to ZyX over delete, but weak keep either way, per WP:ATD-M and WP:ATD-R. I looked at LaukkuTheGreit's sources and both of them definitely look like WP:SIGCOV. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 22:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Absolute Games review & the 2 Japanese sources are just enough to meet GNG. -Mika1h (talk) 16:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep assuming the Japanese sources offer significant coverage. If not kept should be redirected to ZyX (brand) as an ATD. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Atlus USA edit
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Reads like a video game essay, insufficient standalone notability. Only source I found that might have sufficient coverage is the Game Informer one, suggesting merger with Atlus. IgelRM (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Seems quite notable, cites over 77 sources, many of which are secondary. I will note that if language is an issue, just tag it. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: A fairly in-depth article that explains its significance outside of the parent company; several dozen hits when looking at a cursory Google Books search. I do not see a strong reason to delete. Why? I Ask (talk) 02:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am assuming you are referring to "notable in its localization approach in preserving as much of the original", but I struggle to find a notable source for that and mentioned Game Informer article doesn't say it. It would help me if you could pick an example book with significant coverage. IgelRM (talk) 17:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
KeepNeutral: I know I'm biased, and if things go another way I'll accept the decision. If style and writing is the issue, then it needs a rewrite. Or maybe trimming down in places like that huge game list. --ProtoDrake (talk) 06:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Can the keep editors give WP:THREE for those of us who don't want to slog through 77 (!) references? -- asilvering (talk) 05:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tagging @Thetechie: @Why? I Ask:. I mentioned relevant Game Informer article above, so maybe two? IgelRM (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - per above, article passes WP:GNG smoothly. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 22:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, concur with others below, fails WP:THREE, see discussion on my talk Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 01:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge
to Atlus. After (briefly) looking through the 77 sources and Google Books, I'm simply not seeing significant coverage of Atlus USA in reliable, secondary, independent sources. The article clearly has plenty of sources, but they're all trivial mentions (not significant coverage) or interviews (not secondary or independent), plus a few primary sources from Atlus. A few sources do border on significant coverage of Atlus, the parent company, but not Atlus USA, the subject of this article. The only source that is unequivocally significant coverage of Atlus USA is Game Informer, as mentioned above. Will gladly change my mind if anyone can point to two more sources that actually demonstrate SIGCOV. Woodroar (talk) 12:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)- Deliberating a possible merge: History section (except staff section, which does not appear notable) to Atlus; Localization approach section (mostly about localizing SMT) to Megami Tensei; Publishing section and third-party list into an additional section on List of Atlus games. IgelRM (talk) 19:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge I've been going back and forth on this one, but Woodroar more or less said where I ended up. The GameInformer is a huge in-depth source, but as I went through the rest, I simply could not find anything else. A few passing mentions in relation to games ("And Atlus USA is translating" and the like), and many of the non-interviews/non-primaries seemed to not mention Atlus USA at all. Calls for the !Keeps to provide at minimum three are unanswered at this time. -- ferret (talk) 13:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm just curious, is there policy/precedent for not spinning out regional branches like this? Nintendo of America for example doesn't have a standalone article even though it seemingly could. I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't an argument for or against deletion, I'm just wondering if there was some previous consensus on this. CurlyWi (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per above. The article doesn't have enough in-depth sources to exist on it's own, most articles are about the Japanese developer. Swordman97 talk to me 03:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 11:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)