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I'll take it a bit easy for the next issue and do the Gallery, as I want commit my time to creating a few more mainspace articles, as my two previous pieces consumed all of my 'Wikipedia-time'. The Trump piece was last-minute because I wasn't anticipating an assassination attempt, and the Twitter one was rushed since the move was relisted, and I wanted to use that headline. Svampesky (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still ploughing though Commons with this. It will be completed well before publication deadline, and won't need much copyediting. Svampesky (talk) 20:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fleshing out my draft (User:Svampesky/Drafts/Signpost/Luddaites). Is there a reason why paintings are used in medical articles on enwiki? I can't find anything in the policy or guidelines about it. Svampesky (talk) 19:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello everyone! Just so you know, I've moved Bri's report on the Portland case to the top of the page, since this "part 2" might be worth a full blurb, as well. Unfortunately, I won't be able to write any of those this time, due to personal time constraints and total unfamiliarity with the subject; however, I did take care of the whole "In brief" section!

By the way, I apologize for being basically "ghost-like" in the last few months: aside of focusing on other tasks on Wikipedia, I also had (and I still have) to prioritize my real-life schedule, and it was likely the right choice. I hope I'll manage to contribute more in the last quarter of this year! Oltrepier (talk) 10:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Separately, it might be the case that Clovermoss wasn't actually interviewed for that local media piece, so we may want to change wording. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Red-tailed hawk: Ooh, good catch! I'll re-tool that blurb as soon as possible! Oltrepier (talk) 07:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones: On a side note, is it OK if I merge the New Yorker article you provided with another one I've found on El País? Since I actually have time to write a full blurb, and I noticed these two articles both talk about Wikipedia and AI, I think we could kill two birds with one stone here! Oltrepier (talk) 17:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3 things @Clovermoss, Oltrepier, Pine, HaeB, and JPxG:

  1. Should somebody somewhere mention that Clovermoss wrote at least 4 articles for The Signpost with Pine in "On the bright side" starting about January 2020? I thought there were more but could not find any more. Clovermoss probably knows how many and the dates and whether she thinks they are important enough to mention.
  2. Oltrepier. I've seen that El Pais article somewhere before, maybe in the last issue, or maybe we just skipped over it (so far) in this issue. I don't think it fits with the New Yorker article, which is about the beginning of Chat GTP and features 4 or 5 "Wikipedia articles", El Pais is about AI and and the current Wikipedia. I sent JPxG a copy of the article, but I'm not sure he received it. I'm technically a bit over my head on this. HaeB, can you do this? Basically I don't even know what a transformer is, but I can summarize almost anything and hope it makes sense!
  3. As far as the Portland article, I'd rather not participate, except perhaps for the section title. I don't understand the meaning of the current "Portland pol possible problems post paid" means but I do suggest "Portland pol's publicly-paid profile: Part II" (Perhaps I have a special talent for P-alliteration?). I'll suggest for the section: first identify who is the subject of the section. Second: link to the articles in the usual way and use the quotes as part of the text. 3rd: make sure that they are in the proper order - that they flow correctly - and cover everything you want to cover. Then, maybe summarize, and connect the major points. This article is just not attractive to me this month. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones: Thanks for the ping, I edited the coverage of the New Yorker article a bit, it looks fine to me now.
I've got to say that as someone who never watched Jumanji, that pop culture reference went over my head.vAlso, what's the deal with that "Anti Feminism" photo?
Regarding AI, there was also this interview with two WMF staff which would be great to cover. I might take a stab at that soon but am also still working on getting a publishable version of RR ready, so others should feel free to call dibs on it.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done now. @Oltrepier: It might be my imperfect Spanish, but I can't see where the El Pais article says anything like following: As García and Albon suggest, the overall effectiveness of the plans set by the WMF to regulate the use of AI on Wikimedia projects will likely play a key role in shaping Wikipedia's future .... And the claim seems quite surprising - the Foundation usually stays clear from setting such editorial policies, and leaves their development to the volunteer communities of the individual Wikimedia projects (which several of them have done by now). I have removed it for now from the draft, but feel free to add it back in case I overlooked something. Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones Actually, I intended to include the New Yorker article as a premise for the rest of article, which will be mainly built on the El Pais piece: I'll try to post my draft blurb as soon as possible, so you can have a look and see if it might still be suitable! Oltrepier (talk) 19:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones: Everything I ever wrote for the Signpost is linked on my userpage. Maybe what you're remembering is the work Pine did before I joined him? It was already a Signpost feature before we started working on it together. We both became inactive around the same time and it's never really been revived since (I think I've seen one person re-use the name for a piece?) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think mentioning the essay I published in the Signpost in January 2023 would be the most relevant because one of the things I was recognized for in the award was my feedback in regards to mobile editing. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss Thank you, I've just added a quick reference to the short blurb on the Thorold Today article. Oltrepier (talk) 09:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones: By the way, I've just posted a blurb that incorporates both the New Yorker article and the El País one (it hasn't been mentioned before), hopefully it's good enough. Apologies in advance for any linguistic or technical blunders!

@Bri: On a side note, I wonder if we could ask AI to create a Jumanji-inspired pic for that article, but I'm afraid the outcome could be terrifying... Oltrepier (talk) 09:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't remember seeing a piece of WP news-coverage I thought was more stupid than this one:Wikipedia users mind-blown after finding hidden function they never knew about. I checked 3 times, it's not The Onion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Red-tailed hawk, Smallbones, and JPxG: I just wanted to note that the blurb involving the latest updates on the Portland case (suggested by Bri) still need to be expanded, should anybody wish/be able to do so! Like I said, I can't do it myself, because I'm just not familiar enough with the subject... Oltrepier (talk) 20:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and notes

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Going to ping @Trappist the monk, AManWithNoPlan, JLaTondre, and Nemo bis: for comments/sanity check on the above piece/section. Did I get anything wrong/forget something/someone? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine for the JCW compilation. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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As usual, we are preparing this regular survey on recent academic research about Wikipedia, doubling as the Wikimedia Research Newsletter (now in its fourteenth year). Help is welcome to review or summarize the many interesting items listed here, as are suggestions of other new research papers that haven't been covered yet. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Might still edit it a bit further, but this should be publishable already. I'll add an image in a moment and then look at ITM next, per below. Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I plan to eventually finish writing User:Clovermoss/Wikimania 2024. A snazzier title would probably be something like "what it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year". It's been awhile since I've written anything for the Signpost but I figured this would probably be welcome once I'm actually done writing the thing. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:20, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. jp×g🗯️ 00:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shushugah: Would you be alright with waiting to copyedit until I'm actually done? I'm not even halfway through and I plan on rewriting certain things. It just seems like a lot of effort for a process that only needs to be done once at the end, y'know? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! My apologies! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not mad, I just didn't want you to have to spend more time on it than you had to. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss, submit it on the submissions page when you're ready for it to be copyedited. Then the copyeditors know for sure you've finished. Svampesky (talk) 19:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:34, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss: Hi, how is the article shaping up? Don't forget we can give you support to complete it and double-check it, if needed! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 10:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I'm not concerned. It's not too detailed yet but it's high on the list of priorities to finish within the next few days. I took notes at wikimania so I already have somewhat of a rough draft. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky and Oltrepier: I haven't finished it yet but it's coming along nicely and I should be finished before the September 1 deadline. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. I look forward to reading it. Svampesky (talk) 03:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same as per @Svampesky, I can't wait! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 17:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky and Oltrepier: I have finished pretty much everything I set out to do. Let me know what you think. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss: Thank you! I think some parts might need to be trimmed, specifically the August 8 section, but apart from that, the article looks good! If you don't mind, I've done a little bit of copy-editing myself at the top of the page. @Shushugah: If you want to finish the job, go ahead! Oltrepier (talk) 10:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oltrepier: Why do you think parts of August 8 need to be trimmed? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss Because it looked much longer than the other sections, but thinking twice, I understand it was a very eventful day for you, so it's probably fine. : ) Oltrepier (talk) 12:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG, Svampesky, and Clovermoss: By the way, where should we place this article? I think it would be a nice feature for the "Serendipity" section! Oltrepier (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anything else I'm supposed to do? I'm a bit anxious that this piece does not appear to be anywhere at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing you need to do no. It just needs to be moved to Wikipedia:Signpost/Next issue/Something, and then it'll appear in the preview. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, basically -- the process is automatic, so long as the page is in the /Next issue/ namespace. By default it updates every day, but you can make it update manually by clicking on this link from the next issue page. jp×g🗯️ 19:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's still in my userspace for now. You're free to move it wherever you think it should be. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this would be good for 'Featured content'. Svampesky (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky Actually, "Featured content" is usually reserved to FAs, FPs and FLs, so I don't think it would be the most appropriate section in this case... and obviously, since I'm an idiot, I only realized it after I had already moved Hannah's draft over there.
So, for now you can find the draft over at the "Serendipity" section, which should be a more fitting place. @Clovermoss I hope it still sounds good!
P.S. @JPxG, can you help me clean up the mess I've made with the "Featured content" article space, please? Oltrepier (talk) 20:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I will unarseways everything when I prep it, no need to worry. jp×g🗯️ 20:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with the Serendipity. P.S. you're the first person to call me Hannah on-wiki. Congrats. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss Wait, really? That's astounding! : D Oltrepier (talk) 14:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is about Wikimania "last month" and has a day-by-day account of events (day 1, day 2, etc.) but never mentions the actual dates. In fact I can't find the word "August" in the article. Is this intentional? ☆ Bri (talk) 22:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Bri, sorry! I added the dates earlier today, I missed that. I hope that this makes sense now, but if not, please feel free to change the text. Nadzik (talk) 17:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]



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