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June 21

Editing a page

We have recently done extensive research on a page that is really outdated on wikipedia and I wanted to add a few items on there. Unfortunately it was flagged as self-promoting and asked if I was sure I wanted to submit but now I am unsure if what I did was wrong. We are adding our own site as a reference but only because it is verified information on the topic that I spent a lot of time researching. Is this against your policies? AtlasAdventured (talk) 01:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

AtlasAdventured, as "AtlasAdventured" you have added nothing to any article. Which article are you talking about, which username was it that added material then flagged as self-promoting, and why do you talk of "we"? -- Hoary (talk) 01:19, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Hoary,

I say "We" because I have a few employees that helped write and edit our website article on the subject. As for the wikipedia article in question, I did not finalize the edit to the wikipedia page because a red message appeared at the top of the page saying the edit was flagged as it may be 'self-promoting' and explained that I should look at the COI page and contact the Help Desk if I need further clarity AtlasAdventured (talk) 01:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

AtlasAdventured, there are other problems. A username must not be used by more than one person. It cannot be a company name. (If you wish, it can allude to the company: if Ashish and Naomi work for AtlasAdventured, they're welcome to the usernames Ashish@AtlasAdventured and Naomi@AtlasAdventured.) If you'd like to be, say, Wolfgang@AtlasAdventured, then please register that username, use it from now on, and note on its user page that you previously edited as AtlasAdventured. ¶ So: what is "[your] website article on the subject", "the Wikipedia article in question"? If we know, perhaps we can provide that further clarity. -- Hoary (talk) 02:19, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

If you and your employees are writing a Wikipedia article about your organizaion, you should stop immediately. Writing about yourself or your associated individuals/institutions are strongly discouraged，as it will be very difficult to write in an objective and trustworthy manner demanded by the policies here. If you are convinced that your organizaion passed the general guideline for inclusion, make a request at appropriate section of Wikipedia:Requested articles and provide acceptable sources along with the request. Note that Wikipedia is not a social media platform, we do not want promotional contents here. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 05:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Tutwakhamoe, as long as they declare their COI, people are free to create drafts about the organizations they're in or that they head. Wikipedia:Requested articles strikes me as a complete waste of time. I'm willing to be persuaded that I'm wrong about this. -- Hoary (talk) 07:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

We generally delete them. Secretlondon (talk) 11:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

noindex

I have created a wikipedia page and added the content and i have moved it to public,but when i search manualy it is not appearing as it have noindex how do i remove it 122.252.227.228 (talk) 07:17, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, let's take a look at it. What's its title? -- Hoary (talk) 07:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

While we're waiting for the page title, you might want to read WP:NOINDEX. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

...and WP:EVADE. Blocked as a sock of Acharya7317. Cabayi (talk) 08:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello the ants Wikipedia page is not working

The ants Wikipedia is not loading please fix it asap

Thank you 92.25.118.64 (talk) 10:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you mean the article Ant? It loads for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it was... a bug. -- D'n'B-t -- 11:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I hate not being as funny as you. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

If you mean Ant Wiki that is nothing to do with Wikipedia, but it seems to be loading just fine for me. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Text comparison tool for copyright concerns

Is the any tool available for comparing texts to check regarding possible copyright concerns other than the https://dupdet.toolforge.org/ one? This doesn't seem to be working. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

There is Earwig Copyvio Detector as well. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 13:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Border in Gallery

Hello! Is there a possibility to get a border around a picture in a gallery? When part of picture is white, I wish to make a sharper delimitation from the background. For example, the first and second flag:

• 
  Flag 1
• 
  Ceuta
• 
  Swedish flag

Thank you in advance! Pegy22 (talk) 13:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

One way to do that is to use a table. See Help:Pictures#Galleries for more.

Flag 1

Ceuta

Swedish flag

Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pegy22: Tables are best not used for layout (see MOS:LTAB). Use {{gallery}}:

• 
  Flag 1
• 
  Ceuta
• 
  Swedish flag

Thank you! Pegy22 (talk) 14:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Scam website on Southside page

this page Southside (record producer) when you click on southside's website, it takes you to a scam website which tries to make you belive that your PC is locked down, if you click anything on the site you get sent into full screen, (hold escape to get out of full screen). I was smart enough to not fall for it but i know a lot of people who arent, and i do not want anyone's confidential details getting leaked so i am reporting this in 108.67.74.89 (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I have removed the website from the infobox, thanks for the feedback. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Fant-Karl article. Norwegian/English

Some years ago I created a Wiki-article for "Fant-Karl" no:Fant-Karl The site is in Norwegian. I would like now to present "Fant-Karl" on en.wikipedia, and have been working on translating and updating information for a site. What is the best way to go forward here? Mary JBarthelemy (talk) 15:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Generally you can start creating an article by clicking its red link (Fant-Karl in this case), or starte writing in your sandbox first if the article is too long to finish in one go. However, since the criteria for inclusion is different in each Wikipedia, make sure that the subject in question passes WP:GNG or WP:NBIO, as articles that did not pass notability guideline will face deletion. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 16:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

In your edit summary for your very first edit, Mary JBarthelemy, please say that this is a translation of Norwegian (Bokmål) no:Fant-Karl. (If you've already made the first edit, then put this in the edit summary for the earliest possible edit.) -- Hoary (talk) 21:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mary JBarthelemy General advice at WP:TRANSLATE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll give this a try! Mary Mary JBarthelemy (talk) 11:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Redirect function and Creating links for currently non existing pages

Hi, I am having a problem and couldn't find a solution on Wikipedia. In Turkish Wikipedia, when you talk about a village(it can be a neighbourhood, town etc.), you usually have the name of the district in the title. For Village X located in District Y, the title is "X, Y." Most of the village pages on Wikipedia have this style. I started moving pages of Village X to the above-mentioned style. Is this okay? What I would like to do is basically turn them into the most common writing form. I know I can do that for disambiguation, but in this case, it is simply moving for aesthetic, style-based reasons. (There is a guide in Turkish Wikipedia supporting this, but English Wikipedia does not have a defined rule for Turkey.) So I do not know what to do in this context. Should I simply move pages, create redirects, or leave them as they are? Most other Wikipedias follow the same style since pages are translations from Turkish Wikipedia. Example: I moved Yenişakran to Yenişakran, Aliağa

My other question is, when there is a navbox template, can I create links for future, non-existing pages? Because in a good number of navboxes about this topic, only existing pages are linked. So when someone creates a page, the person has to open the navbox and link it each time. Is it acceptable for me to change navboxes on a great scale in this manner? Example: I added links here to Template:Aliağa District

Thank you for your help. Göycen (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

For your first question, titles of articles need qualifier only when there are multiple articles by the same name. If the name of a village is not known for any other items on Wikipedia, it does not need to have qualifier attached. Since people have different stylistic preferences, please hold a discussion and obtain concensus from the community before moving the articles.

As for the second question, you can have articles that do not exist yet on navigation templates, in fact most of the navigation templates I've come across have red links on them. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 17:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@TutwakhamoeThank you for your answer. I will try to adhere that. One more question, how about creating redirects with qualifier w/o moving the page.

So unique X village stays there. May I create page X, Y and redirect to X? Göycen (talk) 21:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Sure, you are allowed to create such redirects. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

change picture

hello, I'm Nino Kalandadze,( username- Ggotua) I have a question. I uploaded a new photo and it doesn't appear on the main page. it is on untested topic. Ggotua (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Your account does not seem to have uploaded any photo, you might need to try again. Maybe WP:UPIMG can help you. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 18:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ggotua: The Wikimedia Commons upload log [1] shows you have uploaded two images but they were deleted as possible copyright violations. I don't have access to deleted Commons pages so I don't know what they contained. You received information and links at commons:User talk:Ggotua. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

June 22

Creating Page

I want to Create 1 page with name lets just say - God Is Great. I Cant see that option to create that page. How to do this? I can only see option to create a page same as my username. Chaturvedi divya (talk) 03:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Chaturvedi divya: Users can't create pages in mainspace until they're autoconfirmed. Please be aware that pages you create in mainspace or draftspace should be of encyclopedic value. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Can't search a page for "jump"

I just noticed this (encountered in Chrome).

• Go to any random article: Special:Random
• Press ctrl-F to find text on the page
• Try to find the word "jump"

Chrome shows occurrences, but none appear on the page.

I first noticed this with Larry Bird: 23 occurrences of the word "jump" but not a single one visible. This surprised me, because Bird had a reputation of never jumping more than a few inches.

It seems to be searching CSS class names and "Jump to content" strings in popup text. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm getting the same in Pale Moon, so it's not limited to Chromium-based browsers. —Cryptic 03:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Larry Bird has 22 <span class="cite-accessibility-label">Jump up to: </span> at references which are used multiple times. It's for screen readers. cite-accessibility-label has properties which position the text outside the visible window so it doesn't distract seeing viewers (except if they search for the text and wonder what's happening). If there are visible occurrences of "Jump" then they do show up, e.g. on Jump. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:14, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

You can see "Jump up to:" if you add this CSS:

span .cite-accessibility-label {position: static !important;}

It doesn't say to display the text, because it wasn't technically hidden. It just says to position it normally. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

more efficient watching

Each day I download my watchlist page, filter it for the "mw-changeslist-watchedunseen" tag, open the histories for the unseen pages; I have a script for these steps. But then, on each of these history pages, I have to click by hand to get the diffs from the last "seen" version to the current version. Is there a more automatic way to get those diffs? —Tamfang (talk) 04:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

You might struggle to get a technical response here. You might want to try WP:VPT. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

my account

My account was banned for no reason My teammates was using and l report his id after some time my account got banned for no reason please fix this problem and unban my account as soon as possible My character id 55502880173 Nitin kamdi (talk) 07:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nitin kamdi: You asked this a few days ago; please read the answers further up this page. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nitin kamdi: It's now at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2024 June 19#Akauda aanlok. I still suspect your post isn't about a Wikipedia account. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding monthly payments

I've payed apparently about $750 throughout the years but now I'm unemployed and if Wikimedia Foundation doesn't require any carpenters unfortunately I have to pause the payments. But I'll try to start contributing again soon. Thank you for all your guys hard work and voluntary labor, it's mind boggling. Andash1337 (talk) 12:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Andash1337 Of course, you should not donate if you are unable to. Note that we editors have nothing to do with collecting donations, that's all handled by the Foundation. If you need to contact them to suspend your recurring donation, email donate@wikimedia.org 331dot (talk) 12:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I see, I'm a very lazy person and clicked the first Contact Us I saw. I think it's all cancelled through PayPal, really just wanted to say I'm sorry for not being able to support for a while.

Thanks for your time. Andash1337 (talk) 13:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Andash1337: See also donate:Cancel or change recurring giving. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Template function

 Courtesy link: Template:Estimation

What's a template like Estimation intended to do? Clarityfiend (talk) 13:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: it inserts "est." inside an HTML5 <abbr> tag, indicating that it's an abbreviation, with a title attribute, which browsers may use to show a tooltip. Other templates, such as {{circa}}, {{born in}}, {{died in}} and {{floruit}} do similar things, usually for helping minimise content-length when space is at a premium. See category:Abbreviation_templates. Bazza 7 (talk) 13:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

How can I contribute detailed content about idle tycoon games to Wikipedia?

Hi everyone,

I've been passionate about idle tycoon games for a while. I'm interested in contributing detailed and informative content about idle tycoon games to Wikipedia, including their mechanics, history, and popular titles.

Does anyone have experience with creating or editing Wikipedia articles? What are the best practices for ensuring that the content is comprehensive, well-cited, and meets Wikipedia's guidelines? Any tips on the process would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help! Saad Ullah 611 (talk) 15:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Saad Ullah 611, and welcome to Wikipedia. Anybody may create a draft and submit it for review, using the articles for creation process. But, people who try this before they have spent several weeks (at least) making edits to existing articles and becoming familiar with Wikipedia's policies, usually have a frustrating and disappointing time.

My advice to any new editor is to work on improving existing articles and become familiar with fundamental principles such as verifiability, reliable sources, independent sources, neutral point of view, and notability before even trying to create an article. If you're not sure where to start, you could look at the task center; or you might consider joining WikiProject Videogames and getting suggestions for articles to work on there.

When you have understood those principles, then I suggest reading your first article, and going from there.

When you get to that point, the first thing you will need to do is to find the independent reliable sources required to establish that Idle Tycoon Games meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability; because if it does not, you will be wasting your time trying to create an article on it. ColinFine (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hyperlink editing

Why can't I click on all of the article's references' popups hyperlinks when I was in the editor? I'm on Chromebook 125.0 and am on Vector 2022 skin. I have tried turning on Enable reference previews, Navigation popups, and the default Reference Tooltips alone in the Preferences, but it just won't work? I have logged out just to test it again, but it still isn't working. I have extensions, but I've tried turning all of them off too. WhyIsNameSoHardOmg- - (talk) 15:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Citing a foreword to a novel

I would like to cite a foreword written by Edwidge Danticat for the novel Hadriana in All My Dreams by René Depestre. The citation would be used to source a statement about Danticat's opinion of the novel. Can forewords be cited, and if so, what is the proper formatting? (The novel is in ebook form.)Thanks, Jaguarnik (talk) 15:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Jaguarnik A foreword is there to promote a book, so it is not WP:neutral, a key requirement of all Wikipedia references. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Jaguarnik. I disagree with Shantavira. Sources are not required to be neutral; but unless they are independent, they can only be used in a limited way. Citing a foreword by Danticat for Danticat's opinion is in my view a normal use of a self-published source. You can cite it using the contribution= parameter of {{cite book}} - see that link for details. ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you both very much.Jaguarnik (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Need an arbiter for an editing disagreement

A short back and forth over (not) including an individual in an embedded list needs a fresh eye. There's a board for that, but I don't recall what it's called. Do you know what it's called? To be clear, I'm not asking you to weigh in, I'm simply looking for the people whose !job is to weigh in. Yappy2bhere (talk) 17:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Yappy2bhere: You might be looking for WP:3O if only two editors are involved or WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 18:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Looking for a binding opinion that ideally doesn't result in a wall of text. Considered WP:3O before I came here, but right now we're reading the same WP policy, we're not reading the same thing, and we're both right of course. Looking at WP:DR now; thank you. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Yappy2bhere: Generally, the best place to try to resolve disputes like this is on the article's talk page per "WP:DR" before moving on the other steps in the DR process. Unlike user talk pages. article talk pages make it easier for others to know about and join the discussion since more people interested in the subject matter are likely watching the article (and by default its corresponding talk page) than are watching a particular user's user talk page. Article talk page discussion also helps discussion relevant to the article in one place and makes it easier to archive things for future reference. Finally, the WP:ONUS in a content dispute typically falls on the person wanting to add content to establish a consensus through article talk page discussion when there are disagreements about it; in other words, if you're bold in adding content, but you're reverted based on some policy or guideline, you should, in principle, then seek consensus on the article talk page. However, since Meters has now started a discussion at Talk:South Kitsap High School#Notable Alumni, that's where you should continue to try to sort this out. A consensus established through article talk page discussion is probably as close to a "binding opinion" as you're going to get when it comes to a disagreement such as this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the Talk page link. Was gonna want that section whichever path we followed. Yappy2bhere (talk) 22:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

June 23

When did WP retire automatic ISBN linkage in favour of {{ISBN}}?

I clearly remember the time WP used to have magic syntax for ISBN links--i.e., whenever you put in something like ISBN 0-19-861186-2, the MW software automatically converted it into ISBN 0-19-861186-2. (Example given is for the Oxford English Dictionary.) Nowadays, editors must resort to using {{ISBN|0-19-861186-2}} to get the same result; that much I realised after giving my AFC commentary at User talk:JParanoid. Can anyone provide me with a backstory as to the changes/circumstances? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 00:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Slgrandson: Looks like the MediaWiki software change to disable magic links by default was in late 2016 and English Wikipedia switched in 2017. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_138#Future_of_magic_links. The magic links existing at that time were converted to templates by a bot. RudolfRed (talk) 00:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Picture wikipedia page in English and French

Hi there, I'm uploading a picture on the French Wikipedia for the same topic I wrote on the English Wikipedia website. It is saying that this picture is already used and is a copy of a different file. What can I do to upload this picture? Nono19192 (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Nono19192. You uploaded the images to Commons (c:File:Lachaume Iconic Door Handles.jpg is one of them) so they can be used directly in any Wikimedia project: you don't need to uploadthem again. If you insert [[File:Lachaume Iconic Door Handles.jpg]] into a page in fr-wiki or any other version of Wikipedia, it will display the picture. ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much! That makes sense Nono19192 (talk) 10:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Nono19192,

As ColinFine said, once an image is in Commons - it can be used by Wikipedia project, or anywhere else really (it's common like common land, anyone can use it). Although I belive the code on French wiki would be [[Image:Lachaume Iconic Door Handles.jpg]].

I am a bit curious as to how to you took the pictures, are they flat-bed scans of prints of photos?

Also while you're here, the language in Draft:Lachaume really needs to be toned down towards a neutral point of view if that draft is going to be accepted - have a read of MOS:PUFFERY for some idea on how to do that. -- D'n'B-t -- 09:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, yes they're scans, is that an issue? Does it need a reference? Let me know what you thin! Regarding the draft, noted. Is there anything else you think might need to be edited? Nono19192 (talk) 10:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Scans isnt an issue per se, its just that you tagged them as Own Work - but its not clear if actually took the photo or not. -- D'n'B-t -- 11:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

If they're scans, what are they scans of? Are the prints you scanned protected by copyright? If not, how not? Maproom (talk) 17:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nono19192: Scanning someone else's work can be problem as explained in c:COM:2D copying and c:COM:Own work because a scanning in and of itself is something that is typically considered to be a "slavish" or "mechanical" reproduction that's insufficient to establish a new copyright. What this means is that the copyright of the original work itself is what matters when it comes to Commons, and you can't upload any scans of still copyright protected works that you didn't create yourself unless you're able to show the original work has been released under an acceptable license for Commons. Even if your scan somehow was creative enough to be considered a WP:Derivative work (see also c:COM:DW) because it incoporated someone else's work into your own creative work, the copyright status of the original work would still need to be OK for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Non-manual ways of linking to contributions with &offset= and &limit=

Users can manually add URL parameters &offset= together with &limit= to Special:Contributions URLs to link to a more precise set of edits. Examples: Special:Diff/981725212 and Special:Diff/1230476091. Page Help:User contributions has information about &offset=, but not about &limit=. My question is: are there any semi-automatic ways of producing such URLs? I couldn't find anything relevant in Wikipedia:User scripts/List. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Andrybak: If you click "older 50" at the top or bottom of page histories or user contributions then you get a url with &offset= and a time stamp you can change manually. Ending digits can be omitted, or be ignored if the exact time is unimportant. It doesn't matter if there are more digits than you started with. If you click a number in "(20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)" then you get a url with &limit= and a number you can change. That's what I do. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I do not want to edit anything. I'd just like to read an article. What do I do?

I do not want to edit anything.  I'd just like to read an article.  What do I do? LJStarry (talk) 17:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@LJStarry: Just go ahead and read articles? You're not obligated to edit if you have an account. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Go for it. There is a search you can use if you have a topic in mind, or Special:Random to pick a random article RudolfRed (talk) 17:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Search the entire site’s history?

I’m wondering if there’s any method to search the entire project, including history, for a phrase (a name). ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, you can search "all" at [2], but that doesn't search history. Wikipedia:WikiBlame seems to be one article at a time. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:53, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Clicking red links

Anyone know how I can make it so that clicking on a red-link does not make "&action=edit&redlink=1" be at the end of the URL? Maybe I'd have to use some kind of custom-javascript thing? Thanks, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 20:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Cocobb8: User:Awesome Aasim/noeditredlinks removes &action=edit but keeps &redlink=1. I guess this works for your unstated purpose. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @PrimeHunter! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 20:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

June 24

Peter Phillips

Reference numbers 42 and 43 are both from the UK Daily telegraph and should be "archived" with a little padlock emblem - I cannot do this. Please assist if possible. Thanks. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 00:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This can be done with the "url-access" parameter, but I am not sure which one to use or if it is even needed. I am able to view the content without signing up. RudolfRed (talk) 00:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The "padlocks" for archived UK Daily Telegraph articles (as references) has been done correctly in the article Catherine, Princess of Wales. Is there any editor that knows how to do it? All the very best and thanks in advance for trying. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 00:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Padlocks are only for references that are viewable if one is a subscriber (in which case, "url-access=subscription"). References 42 and 43 are viewable by anyone. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)