Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 November 19

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November 19

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Image:Swastik4.svg

Image:Swastik4.svg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by User:Stannered (notify | contribs).

I am highly offended to find such an offensive symbol invented by the Nazis in all these articles about Hindism. Hindus are not Nazis and don't hate Jews. Please delete this image immeditely. I'm a complete moron and should never say anything ever again. -Roofus (talk) 08:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Err? --Aqwis (talk) 11:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Closed. Clearly a Commons image, and this is probably just trolling. -- RG ² 23:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:HeilIsrael.jpg

Image:HeilIsrael.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jaakobou (notify | contribs).

Several free images of the same artist exists. Liftarn (talk) 14:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep - User:Liftarn has been tirelessly promoting POV on the Carlos Latuff article. I've been archiving work by Latuff for a short while now and encountered extreme resistance by him to anything that might make the artists' attacks on his usual objects (israel and the US) seem over the top and anti-semitic. current image was released as "copyright free" by the propagandist, however, he has used one image who's copyright status is not entirely clear. yes, there's a few more hatefull images by him, but there are no free images with sharon doing the hitler salute in such a clear manner. image should stay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaakobou (talk • contribs) 15:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Jaakobou has been tirelessly promoting POV on the Carlos Latuff article by cherrypicking and distortion as well as adding unsourced statements. // Liftarn (talk)

"keep" I have seen a number of Latuff cartoons with comparisons between Israel and Nazis and also he tends to use the term "IsraeHell" in instead of Israel. However I've not yet seen a cartoon by him so clearly demonstrating the issue of his continuous statements that Israel= nazi Germany.I don't believe theres is a free replacement for this image. and if theres is,the delation nominator should provide it.Batlily (talk) 16:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Category:Carlos Latuff has several images. Pick one. If it's such a common theme you would have no problem finding a free replacement. // Liftarn (talk)
speedy keep the cartoonist is anti-copyright. The objection that it's "non-free" is wrong. <<-armon->> (talk) 21:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Yes, but it is a derivative work of a non-free image. // Liftarn (talk)
  - comment - how does Liftarn knows the original is "non-free"? can you back up this claim? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 23:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comment: There is no evidence it is free so it must be assumed to be non-free. // Liftarn (talk)

Image:Wikistretch.JPG

Image:Wikistretch.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mrchadsexington (notify | contribs).

Image was uploaded for use in Stretch Skin Therapy, which was speedied. I can't see any reason to keep this now... uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not the exact same image. Fair use rationale provided. Should be a speedy keep. Miranda 18:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Fallibroome High School Logo.gif

Image:Fallibroome High School Logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pufferfish101 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Fallibroome High School Logo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Girls gone wild logo.gif

Image:Girls gone wild logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Thx2005 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Girls gone wild logo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Greyhound dog.gif

Image:Greyhound dog.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sydh (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Greyhound dog.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Indiglo.gif

Image:Indiglo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Simonlebon (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Indiglo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Jarritos logo.gif

Image:Jarritos logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by C6758 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Jarritos logo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ninja Turtles, The Next Mutation.gif

Image:Ninja Turtles, The Next Mutation.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by RAW Vegetto (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Ninja Turtles, The Next Mutation.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:P4ee.gif

Image:P4ee.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Soakologist (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:P4ee.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pafbadge.gif

Image:Pafbadge.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zaindy87 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Pafbadge.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pamperlogo.gif

Image:Pamperlogo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sovietcollector (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Pamperlogo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pentium m 2006.gif

Image:Pentium m 2006.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Alex43223 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Pentium m 2006.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Personatv.gif

Image:Personatv.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Azumanga1 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Personatv.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:PsionTeklogix logo.gif

Image:PsionTeklogix logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Saxbryn (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:PsionTeklogix logo.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Utv.gif

Image:Utv.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pikachu9000 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:Utv.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:WORLD-METRO-MAP-2005.gif

Image:WORLD-METRO-MAP-2005.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mapmark (notify | contribs).

Orphaned because Image:WORLD-METRO-MAP-2005.png made this image obsolete. —PNG crusade bot ^(feedback) 18:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Thewarlocks.jpg

Image:Thewarlocks.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rudidude86 (notify | contribs).

Permisson given from copyright holder, but there is no indication that the image is released under a free license. Can't be used under fair use, since it is replaceable and fails WP:NFCC#1 Rette tast 20:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Abcban2.gif

Image:Abcban2.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wassssuuuup! (notify | contribs).

Possibly a copivio, unused Rette tast 20:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Hotfm.jpg

Image:Hotfm.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wassssuuuup! (notify | contribs).

possibly a copybio. Unused Rette tast 20:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:VinnyPic2.jpg

Image:VinnyPic2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Vinny_pappy (notify | contribs).

Wikipeia is given permission, but that is not a free license. Unused. Rette tast 20:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Nonprofit.png

Image:Nonprofit.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by TubularWorld (notify | contribs).

Orphaned image, created by myself. Made obsolete by new image. TubularWorld (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:The_Office_USA_The_Office_UK.jpg

Image:The_Office_USA_The_Office_UK.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Copyright violation. Clearly a derivative work from nonfree material. -- RG ² 22:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Latenightabstract.jpg

Image:Latenightabstract.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

No evidence image has been released into the public domain. -- RG ² 22:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MMMS2.jpg

Image:MMMS2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Works of the U.S. federal government are automatically in the public domain. This isn't necessarily true for local or state governments. -- RG ² 23:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:ITunes_Video_Store_Screenshot.gif

Image:ITunes_Video_Store_Screenshot.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Screenshot; clearly not free. -- RG ² 23:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Itunesvideosmall.gif

Image:Itunesvideosmall.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Screenshot; clearly not free. -- RG ² 23:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Marlboro_Outline.JPG

Image:Marlboro_Outline.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned, Unencyclopedic -- RG ² 23:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Monarch_Lion.png

Image:Monarch_Lion.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Copyright violation. Work of a school district, which is not part of the federal government and whose works are not automatically in the public domain. -- RG ² 23:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MMMS.jpg

Image:MMMS.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Copyright violation. Works by school districts in the U.S. are not automatically in the public domain. -- RG ² 23:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Red_Sox_Moon.jpg

Image:Red_Sox_Moon.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Unsourced, questionable licensing given uploader's history. Orphaned. -- RG ² 23:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Small_WTC_Lights.JPG

Image:Small_WTC_Lights.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aido2002 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned. Questionable uploader history, given that he has claimed derivative works as his own. -- RG ² 23:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - LQ & probable CV, per nom. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 21:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:SixFirstladies.jpg

Image:SixFirstladies.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mynameisjim93 (notify | contribs).

Copyright violation. This is a press photo, so it fails non-free content criterion #2, as we clearly infringe on commerical opportunities. The claim on the image description page that this is "very rare" makes it that much more valuable to the copyright holder. Listing here as a courtesy, as press photos can be speedily deleted as copyright violations (G12, see this precedent). -- RG² 23:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The fair use rationale seems to be valid.Ngchen (talk) 23:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - And there seems to be an awful bias that throwing up a generic fair use rationale is good enough -- at least for keeping the bots at bay. Unfortunately, a misleading rationale doesn't get around the fact that this image spectacularly fails our non-free content criteria. -- RG² 09:17, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - So how does the image detract from the Orange County register's business in any way?Ngchen (talk) 23:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC) The image is a nice illustration of the various FLOTUS's the U.S. has had.Ngchen (talk) 23:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - How are the two rationale's misleading? Happyme22 (talk) 17:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Because this is such a blatant copyright violation that I should really speedy delete it. -- RG² 19:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Please avoid copyright paranoia. But upon a seond look at [1] you're right in that the image fails the guideline an image is only fair use if we're commenting on the image itself. See especially the Barry Bonds example. So, sadly, it is a case of delete.Ngchen (talk) 23:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was:

Image:Senate_in_session.jpg

Image:Senate_in_session.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jiang (notify | contribs).

Copyright violation. This is a press photo, so it fails non-free content criterion #2, as we clearly infringe on commerical opportunitieso. Listing here as a curtesy, as press photos can be speedily deleted as copyright violations (G12, see this precedent). -- RG² 23:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. As indicated in the page, this comes from a screen shot from the U.S. Senate cameras. As indicated by the C-SPAN website, this is in the public domain [[2]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meamemg (talk • contribs) 03:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Per Meamemg, the fair use rationale is amply documented. Even if fair use cannot be established, C-SPAN has released it into the public domain.Ngchen (talk) 23:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per above, as this is a public domain image, and therefore not a copyvio. Lankiveil (talk) 03:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]
If it's a public domain image, someone should fix the tagging on the image description page and make sure the image is actually from C-SPAN. Given that the C-SPAN capture was in the public domain, there's no reason the AP couldn't take it, modify it, and relicense it. -- RG² 09:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per all above comments. Happyme22 (talk) 17:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So did anyone actually want to try fix the problems? -- RG ² 19:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done. The uploader is a very well-respected long-term contributor, as such there is no reason to doubt his assertion that the image came from C-SPAN.Ngchen (talk) 23:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image kept per WP:AGF -Nv8200p talk 14:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.