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I don't know - but that's not what I asked for - I expressly asked for and got permission to use on the Wiki! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 13:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately that's what GFDL implies (admittedly you'd have to print the entire text of the license on the back of the t-shirt). They may have thought you meant just on wikipedia - however GFDL means that anyone could use the image anywhere for any purpose - including commercially. Megapixie 13:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the BBC with a formal note of release - ok? I also think a picture of AMelia on a -shirt would be a fine thing! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Make sure the reply is sent to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org", and then ask some user with OTRS access (like User:Jkelly) to add the OTRS ticket number to the image description page. Thanks for the cooperation. --Abu badali (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Unnecessary unfree image of a book's cover, aparently being used to illustrate the (living) person depicted on the cover Abu badali (talk) 19:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - it illustrates the subject and the writer of the book - rather ridiculous to suggest that this is unnecessary.
    Why do you mean by "subject"? The living person or the book cover? --Abu badali (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not being used in a fair use context per WP:NFCC #1 - living person - we could take a picture that would serve the same effect. No fair use rationale provided.
  • Keep. The woman in the picture was fired from a union job (with a for-cause termination clause) for THAT PICTURE. Then she wrote a book about it. Then we wrote about her book. Image is irreplaceable because of her job firing and the notoriety surrounding it. -N 21:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It doesn't say anywhere in the article that she was fired for this exact picture. You would have a good argument for keeping the image if that were the case. However, it says, "Delta Air Lines objected to photographs and commentary on her blog." Which photographs? Don't know, but it sounds like more than one. howcheng {chat} 06:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • There were other photos but they were very similar in nature, just mild risque posing in an airplane. The author chose this photo as an iconic representation of this and chose this as the cover of her book. Any alternative to this photo would still be non-free. -N 19:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If there is no concensus here it should be kept - this matter should now be finalised Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 16:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately consensus cannot override policy, especially when it comes to image licensing. howcheng {chat} 21:51, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, image is a replaceable fair use image. --Iamunknown 21:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep We have no article on the book specifically, only this article on the author. However, this is I think okay for fair use, as the image is used to illustrate an article discussing the book in question. Gaff ταλκ 18:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object to deletion I object to the deletion of this image. The subject was fired for blogging and for a few photos on her blog. The photo on the book cover is indeed iconic of those few blog photos. After she was fired she wrote the book based on her blog (the title of the book is the title of her blog). In short, the photo is the ideal image to illustrate the subject - "subject" being person, blog, and photos. To restore the image, would it merely be a matter of adding an appropriate caption to the image to give its relevance to the article? Can't we err on the side of constructiveness? The case that the image is legally unacceptable has not been made by the above discussion. The deletion is strange indeed. I note that the article in question has a history of intense spam and vandalism...I am suspicious. Bdushaw 17:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LookEast.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Brookie (notify | contribs).
Corrected the tag to GFDL as used with the ok of the bbc - have also remoived ifd tag as a result Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 07:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the BBC with a formal note of release - ok? Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 13:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Amelia.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Gingerblokey (notify | contribs).

*Keep - it shows the girl hosting the programme - clearly a picture adds something that text doesn't. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 06:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorted: it should be a GFDL tag as it was so - have changed it now - have removed ifd tag as now sorted Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 06:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, please do not remove the ifd tag. The discussion is still going on and others may be interested in reading it. It seems you asked for a Wikipedia-only permission, and not gfdl licensing, what's not acceptable. --Abu badali (talk) 13:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay to save wasting a day having pedantic arguments over the release as already given - I have re-emailed the creator of the picture with a formal note of release - ok? Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 13:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OTRS permission has been confirmed and the image marked as such. MECUtalk 14:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn: Permission sent to OTRS. Good work! --Abu badali (talk) 19:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Reply received 23 May 2007

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