Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Solar System/addition4

Solar System (4th supplementary nomination) edit

This topic is already featured. It is being re-nominated to add additional items. See Wikipedia talk:Featured topics/Solar System for discussions of the topic's previous nominations. The additional items are:

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Solar System	Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars, Ceres, Asteroid belt, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Kuiper belt, Eris, Scattered disc, Oort cloud

All three of these articles are now GA class, and deal with major features of the Solar System's geography. Serendipodous 05:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that these should be in the topic, but if we add them we have to also add the oort cloud, otherwise we would be creating an arbitrary gap. Add it to the nomination and you have my support. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 05:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added; though Oort cloud is still only listed as start class. Serendipodous 08:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oort cloud is the weakest of the articles, yes, but it covers the most important information, is well written, and referenced. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 13:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would submit that Solar wind could also be an appropriate topic. But it's not GA and the "Outer limits" section needs development. — RJH (talk) 16:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually thinking that solar wind could be merged with heliosphere and heliopause (both of which are relatively anaemic articles) and that the newly enhanced article might be suitable for inclusion, but I wasn't sure if it was possible to get enough people on board. Serendipodous 16:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, plus bow shock and heliosheath. Or all four of the outer boundary articles could be merged together as a forked article from the solar wind page. — RJH (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If we add Asteroid belt, Kuiper belt and Scattered disc, then Oort Cloud is essential. Therefore, I don't feel I can support the addition until Oort Cloud attains GA.--Pharos 01:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uranus isn't a GA, but it's listed; I think that listing Oort cloud would be a good way of drawing attention to it. Serendipodous 07:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles can't be added to featured topic if they are hopeless of achieving such status themselves; certainly not for "attention". The category and "see also" links of various articles have to do that themselves. -- Phoenix2 ^{(talk, review)} 19:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oort cloud should be featured status, and I see no reason why it cannot be, given the proper attention. Serendipodous 20:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The point is, Oort cloud should be getting the proper attention (and improvements) before it is added to the FT. Adding an article that does not have FA or GA status is against criterion #6 at Wikipedia:Featured topic criteria. Uranus is grandfathered in for now because this topic was approved before the guidelines were clear, but no new additions of this sort should be permitted at this point. Unfortunately, though, if we're to add Kuiper belt etc. I think Oort cloud is a must-have, so we should hold off on this addition until that article reaches at least GA.--Pharos 02:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. Give me a week. I'll see what I can do. Serendipodous 10:14, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One week on, Oort cloud is now listed at WP:GAN. I agree with the above that if Oort cloud isn't up to scratch, then none of these should be added. Tompw (talk) (review) 17:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Much to my surprise, it passed. Not a bad result for one day's work. So shall we close the deal? Also, I'd appreciate it if anyone with a better grasp than I of Scientese could go through the sources and make sure I haven't made any howlers. Thanks. Serendipodous 06:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted by Tompw 06:53, May 28, 2007 (UTC)