Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/File:Hemerocallis lilioasphodelus flower.jpg

Delist: File:Hemerocallis lilioasphodelus flower.jpg edit

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Jun 2013 at 23:13:22 (UTC)

Reportedly Hemerocallis lilioasphodelus, challenged by IP last year

Reason: Last year an IP raised a fuss about this image, using the FPC talk page and a less extensive rant at the article's talk page. Now, I'm no botanist, and I'm not vouching for the accuracy or lack of accuracy of this image, but as a result of this debate the image has very little use. Jkadavoor attempted to reinsert the image but was reverted almost immediately. Now the image is way, way down in a very, very, very overillustrated article.
Articles this image appears in: Daylily
Previous nomination/s: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Hemerocallis Lilioasphodelus.jpg
Nominator: — Crisco 1492 (talk)

Delist — — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Photographer/nominator notified here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - I requested input at Wikiproject Plants. Chick Bowen 23:27, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Daylilies have been extensively hybridized and there are many cultivated varieties (cultivars), some of which have then "escaped" and become at least semi-naturalized. It's extremely difficult to tell from a photograph of a flower whether this is the true wild species or a cultivar. The Flora of North America does say that the species "escapes", so it's possible that the image is of the true species. However, the Flora of China says here that H. lilioasphodelus has "lemon-yellow" flowers; the Flora of North America says the same here. I wouldn't describe the colour in the image as "lemon-yellow". To be confident that this is the true species, given that it was photographed a very long way from its native range, it would be necessary to show that all of the description in the Floras applied. An image of a flower simply isn't enough to tell either way. Whether this should lead to delisting I leave to others. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delist. Even if that flower somehow is properly identified in terms of genetics (and I doubt it is), it's not a good iconic illustration as it does not show the lemon yellow, which is a big iconic feature of the subject.TCO (talk) 20:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delist as above. The current usage is far from ideal. J Milburn (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the first discussion I agree with what JJ Harrison said he was told by a herbarium, without a voucher stored and properly identified by a trained botanist, you can't be 100% sure. Some plants, specifically these day lilies hybridize soooo easily and therefore identification is difficult even for experts. Properly identifying a flower from just a picture is almost impossible, and even field identification of many is impossible. Theres enough doubt cast that this isn't a true representation anyway. Personally I'd prefer good high quality photos of herbarium vouchers myself for featuring and putting in articles for plants, to bad most herbariums don't release their digital files under a wiki compatible license. Regardless present usage alone likely requires procedural delist, so Delist. — raeky t 06:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 05:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not enough support for delisting the image. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 05:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]