Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Takbir of prayer.jpg

Takbir of prayer edit

Original - A Muslim raises his hands to say the takbir to mark the beginning of his prayers. Muslims usually wear white clothes and a cap whilst praying.

Reason: The recent supplicating pilgrim nomination prompted me to nominate this image. Image is of good quality and EV of an unrepresented subject. Lighting is also good.
Articles this image appears in: Salah, Clothing, Prayer, Takbir
Creator: Muhammad Mahdi Karim

Support as nominator --Muhammad(talk) 18:41, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments First off, I really dislike the white on white, but there is nothing we can do about that, as places of worship usually don't paint their walls vibrant colors. What worries me is that there is no personality rights tag on the image, there is something purple on the hands, and the lower half of his body is cut out. Is he standing, kneeling, what? I want to hear your resonses before I vote. Nezzadar ^[SPEAK] 18:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The lighting control is such that a smooth gray background is achieved so IMO not much of a problem. You're quite right about the dull colours in places of worship though so not much that can be done there. Personality tag can be added by anybody, I will do it now. FWIW, I have the model permission as this was originally taken for a commercial purpose. --Muhammad(talk) 19:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, a lot of links on the picute page, including your name, are broken. Nezzadar ^[SPEAK] 19:00, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broken links are a fault with wikis servers probably. --Muhammad(talk) 19:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ addressed Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC) Not sure what the mechanism on WP is for model release, but this needs one, and I see no evidence of it in the image description. Oppose until one can be shown or filed through whatever appropriate channels may exist. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 19:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Model releases are generally not required for use on Commons or Wikimedia. The relevant page though is: commons:Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people. I added the personality rights template the second I saw the picture before even reading Nezzadar's comments, and he is right that it needed it. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 20:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Model release linked. See here --Muhammad(talk) 14:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Xavexgoem (talk) 02:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I would like to at least have a full body, and preferably more than one person in an environment that isn't just a blank wall. This picture gives too little information. --Silversmith Hewwo 06:39, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- See below why a full body shot would not be appropriate --Muhammad(talk) 10:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would like to see an image like this: as opposed to this: which is what this image is. It's bland and unemotional and has no wow factor.--Silversmith Hewwo 23:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - No offense but this shows a picture of a person peacefully praying. Sure I could add a bit of wow by strapping a few grenades around him but it wouldn't be very encyclopedic :) You are comparing two different types of images. --Muhammad(talk) 00:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment So is the takbīr just the bit said in this pose or the entire prayer? Noodle snacks (talk) 09:55, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The prayer is made up of numerous takbirs at different positions, some while sitting some while standing etc. Between these takbirs there are verses of quran and other acts. --Muhammad(talk) 10:43, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - How difficult would it be to come up with something like [1] then? I think the enc could be improved doing so. Noodle snacks (talk) 08:16, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - I was thinking of doing something like that but a problem arises. Unfortunately, different sects have some differences in the other positions hence the image would not be accurate. Also lighting control would be much more difficult for someone who is working without the luxury of a studio. --Muhammad(talk) 10:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support, I do like this image and I agree that having a full body shot isn't important since it can be done kneeling or standing. I think it is important to represent this and this is a pretty decent way but I'm not sure it makes clear the steps in the process... but I doubt any image can do that. gren グレン 17:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is there a name for the _gesture_ as distinct from the takbir (which I understand is the utterance of the phrase, rather than the gesture or posture assumed by the person doing the praying). Spikebrennan (talk) 19:15, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- There is reciting the takbir and performing it. This shows one performance --Muhammad(talk) 00:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above -- mcshadypl ^T ^C 06:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Which above would that now be? --Muhammad(talk) 08:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A good image with high encyclopedic value. Mostlyharmless (talk) 06:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support As it doesn't matter if subject is kneeling or standing. Noodle snacks (talk) 00:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support This offers a nice demonstration; excellent EV for me. Cowtowner (talk) 03:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Silversmith, and also because the face is so dark compared to the rest of the photo -- and the face is the most interesting part. Madman (talk) 03:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional Support Wonderful contribution but I would like to see the model permission before supporting. I know it is not a requirement but if a guy is going to have his face on the main page, I want to know it is fine with him --H92110 (talk) 11:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Model Release Here it is. Sorry for taking time but busy IRL, exams going on. --Muhammad(talk) 14:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom (now that the model release is here). Spikebrennan (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support - fine image of an underrepresented FP subject. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator. upstate NYer 22:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. --JN 466 23:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Takbir of prayer.jpg --Zoo Fari 02:59, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]