Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Archive 89
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156.34.184.13
- Username
- 156.34.184.13 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Torture (filter log)
- Description
- Editing a description to explain medieval torture methods.
- Date and time
- 05:09, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Doesn't seem likely to be a FP. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 10:29, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
142.154.212.94
- Username
- 142.154.212.94 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- LiveTiles (filter log)
- Description
- Attempting to update information to reflect updated product offerings, as well as recent growth for the company.
- Date and time
- 16:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Hmm your edits mess up the formatting of the article and appear to be highly promotional. Drmies (talk) 16:27, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Amitpaliwalsingh
- Username
- Amitpaliwalsingh (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 20:52, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Not done No references provided, and your previous edits to the page were reverted by another editor. EggRoll97 (talk) 10:31, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
2605:8D80:480:8003:713A:BE66:DACE:C7FD
- Username
- 2605:8D80:480:8003:713A:BE66:DACE:C7FD (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Lord Farquaad (filter log)
- Description
- Adding content explaining how is name also referenced and was partially based on a word frequently used towards people who were dicks in the 1990s. May not be appropriate for all ages, should probably be added with a spoiler but even so He is still a massive fuckwad
- Date and time
- 07:24, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Some highly reliable sources stating that correlation would be needed to make such a contribution appropriate. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 14:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Not done – The bad words filter is working. The submitter of this report has been blocked by another admin. EdJohnston (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
142.160.89.97
- Username
- 142.160.89.97 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Exception (filter log)
- Description
- I attempted to add the following:
''[[Exceptional: Why the World Needs a Powerful America]]'', a 2015 book by Dick and Liz Cheney
- Date and time
- 02:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- I did the edit for you. Sakura CarteletTalk 02:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
2601:581:8000:21B0:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95
- Username
- 2601:581:8000:21B0:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers season page(baseball) (filter log)
- Description
- Dick Schofield ADD to other batters section, under Jim Barbieri please. Make sure correctly disambiguated as presented. Thank you.
- Date and time
- 14:18, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Done, thank you for your contributions! —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- This seems to be a frequent problem for this user. @Someguy1221: It looks like filter 384 makes an exception for
\bDick('s\s[A-Za-z][a-z]|\s[A-Z][a-z.])
but that doesn't work for{{sortname|Dick|Foo}}
etc. What about something along the lines of\bDick('s\s[A-Za-z][a-z]|(\s|\s?\|\s?)[A-Z][a-z.])
instead? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)- Bumping thread and pinging someone else. @MusikAnimal: Does this seem reasonable? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: One could vandalize any template transclusion with "Dick", so instead I've changed it to check for {{sortname}}, specifically. Thanks — MusikAnimal talk 18:47, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Bumping thread and pinging someone else. @MusikAnimal: Does this seem reasonable? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- This seems to be a frequent problem for this user. @Someguy1221: It looks like filter 384 makes an exception for
VerumFereSemper
- Username
- VerumFereSemper (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- User:64.234.22.19 (filter log)
- Description
- I was creating my user page.
- Date and time
- 21:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Why were you "creating your user page" at User:64.234.22.19? Your user page is at User:VerumFereSemper. Not a false positive. General Ization Talk 21:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
2003:CD:7F1B:5500:7D77:6EA5:DC8A:9888
- Username
- 2003:CD:7F1B:5500:7D77:6EA5:DC8A:9888 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 23:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Filter working as intended. General Ization Talk 23:16, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
The Great Pancracio
- Username
- The Great Pancracio (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Kodokan-Totsuka rivalry (filter log)
- Description
- Creating an article with literary sources, none of them self-published or related to self-publishing in any way.
- Date and time
- 15:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @The Great Pancracio: One of the books was published by print-on-demand service Trafford Publishing. This filter is really just an "Are you sure?" button, as self-published sources are sometimes reliable, just not usually. If you feel comfortable that the source is a WP:RS, you can just ignore the warning. Suffusion of Yellow (talk)
69.181.23.220
- Username
- 69.181.23.220 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Frederick Trump (filter log)
- Description
- add references from Deutsche Welle:
- https://www.dw.com/en/an-election-a-wine-cooler-and-ketchup-in-trumps-german-village/a-19094283
- https://www.dw.com/en/what-trumps-ancestral-village-in-germany-has-to-say-about-him/a-19088834
- https://www.dw.com/en/report-trumps-grandfather-pleaded-to-stay-in-germany/a-36465868
- https://www.dw.com/en/what-donald-trump-learned-from-his-german-grandpa-friedrich-drumpf/a-18701551
- Date and time
- 22:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
2600:1700:F010:E990:D9C2:843C:D9C0:C7ED
- Username
- 2600:1700:F010:E990:D9C2:843C:D9C0:C7ED (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- (486958) 2014 MU69 (filter log)
- Description
- Reverting the article back to its Sept. 7 2018 revision due to vandalism where the entire page content has been swapped with the content of the aricle Earth.
- Date and time
- 23:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Thank you. Drmies (talk) 23:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
A human who is not a robot
- Username
- A human who is not a robot (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Challenge (literature) (filter log)
- Description
- The article mentions "the F-word" and "the N-word". As I understand Wikipedia's policy on censorship in articles, this should be changed to "fuck" and "nigger".
- Date and time
- 00:02, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Don't see why it has to be. Drmies (talk) 00:48, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Rather ambiguous in the current state. BLDM (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Bikomudiaga
- Username
- Bikomudiaga (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Warri (filter log)
- Description
- Trying to add a link
- Date and time
- 22:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Bikomudiaga is an obvious sock (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vwegba4real), and the site they're trying to add a link to is with all probability the globally blacklisted "Warri Times". - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
74.104.136.171
- Username
- 74.104.136.171 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- User talk:205.213.143.136 (filter log)
- Description
- I was warning an anon for vandalism to an article. A link to the edit can be found here. Unfortunately, the details of the edit filter I triggered are not public, so I don't know what I did to trigger it. 74.104.136.171 (talk) 14:09, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Date and time
- 14:09, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- The filter in question only warned the user about this edit, and let it go through, so no further action is needed here. LynxTufts (talk) 14:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
2600:1700:EDA0:C1C0:50D8:E51A:5E8C:37C2
- Username
- 2600:1700:EDA0:C1C0:50D8:E51A:5E8C:37C2 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) (filter log)
- Description
- Removing false information. The album states the album is the only one to contain no profanity, but in the first verse of the song "Duality", the lyrics "I've wished for this, I've bitched at that" are present.
- Date and time
- 13:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- The edit summary triggered one filter for the profanity, and another for 'Armenian football vandal'. I can't view the details of the latter to see what exactly caused it to trigger, but a shorter edit summary without the word 'bitched' might be able to go through. LynxTufts (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
WuHaiJie
- Username
- WuHaiJie (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 14:49, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Filter working as intended. General Ization Talk 15:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Gradalisinc
- Username
- Gradalisinc (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- gradalisinc - I'm creating our company page. (filter log)
- Description
- Date and time
- 16:07, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Filter working as intended. Also see WP:COI and WP:PAID. General Ization Talk 16:08, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Donovan DMC
- Username
- Donovan DMC (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- User:Donovan_D (filter log)
- Description
- This account is an alternate name to my main username, I was trying to add the doppelganger template to the user page. I do not believe this account has been registered, yet it still will not let me register Donovan_D as a user.
- Date and time
- 18:36, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Donovan DMC: {{doppleganger}} isn't really needed here, and shouldn't be added to the userpages of unregistered accounts anyway. The software won't allow anyone to register Donovan_D (it's too similar to some existing names), so there is no risk of anyone impersonating you with that name. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
NiP.LSD^v^
- Username
- NiP.LSD^v^ (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Ninjas in Pyjamas (filter log)
- Description
- Add results for Brasileirao De Rainbow Six under Rainbow Six Results; Swapped placings of defunct division's results to be below current active division's results; Fixed error on date of the most recent League of Legends result, Fix a spacing error between sections Dota 2 (Disbanded) and Overwatch (Disbanded)
- Date and time
- 21:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
131.93.108.8
- Username
- 131.93.108.8 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 21:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Kacollier
- Username
- Kacollier (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Daughters of Mara (filter log)
- Description
- I noticed that the page of one of my favorite bands was marked as not meeting the "notability guidelines" for not including secondary sources. I was making an effort to give a bit more credibility by editing the "References" section to provide an additional reference page. Unfortunately, I think the URL triggered the filter due to a couple of elements. The resource is an well regarded online publication highlighting metal music/bands/etc, and the article I linked is a "guest column" by a user with an unfortunate handle... http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/02/23/daughters-of-mara-by-isntatotaldouchebag10/
- Date and time
- 13:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
2604:2000:B049:EF00:CCF3:A8FD:6AFD:7661
- Username
- 2604:2000:B049:EF00:CCF3:A8FD:6AFD:7661 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- the purge (filter log)
- Description
- edit content you missed
- Date and time
- 21:53, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done Filter working as intended. IP warned. General Ization Talk 21:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Steveob42
- Username
- Steveob42 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Talk:List_of_fake_news_websites (filter log)
- Description
- I encountered what appears to be a fake news site and was bringing it up in the talk section. content below, not sure what the alarm was, but I can see how discussing fake news might have some "trigger" words, and that may be why there is so little activity on this page. It isn't because of a lack of fake news sites...
http://www.thenyherald.com/2018/09/11/pedophiles-decapitated-corpse-found-on-judges-doorstep-after-bail-hearing/ did not happen, picture is from 2017, no mention of pedo in original story, no mention of anyone being decapitated in aurora yesterday on "judge jacksons" step, it happened in jackon ms. Just some manifestation of someones fantasy world and/or limbic trolling.
- Date and time
- 22:21, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
153.204.105.55
- Username
- 153.204.105.55 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Cancer 4 Cure (filter log)
- Description
- I tried to improve the article (in accordance with MOS:ALBUM). I have no idea which part of my edit triggered an edit filter.
- Date and time
- 07:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Jpolyindia
- Username
- Jpolyindia (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 04:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Working as intended, user blocked for spam. LynxTufts (talk) 12:49, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
204.111.103.10
- Username
- 204.111.103.10 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- I was simply correcting grammar so it would appear more accurate for American readers. (filter log)
- Description
- Date and time
- 19:55, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done not a fp.CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
75.104.64.164
- Username
- 75.104.64.164 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- need access to a clients page . how do I ?
- Date and time
- 20:35, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Filter working as intended. Your client wants you to add "JEM was here" to his page!? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:35, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Darthvaderobi0
- Username
- Darthvaderobi0 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- The Brobecks (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to revert an edit for 6 years ago that removed all info from the article and replaced it with a redirect to one of the members. I was also going to update all the info after I finished the revert.
- Date and time
- 16:20, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Darthvaderobi0:A filter was tripped because of including the name of Brendon Urie, which is apparently used in a lot of vandalism as the log for that filter is full of true positives. The subject matter of this article just happened to coincide with the filter.
- The question is whether the band itself, and not just Weekes, meets the criteria for WP:BAND. It looks like it does meet criteria 11 and possibly 6 (though Matt Glass is notable as a filmmaker rather than musician, and Casey Crescenzo is listed as a producer instead of a musician with the band). With that in mind I processed the revert for you. Note that the material on this page was mostly copied to Dallon Weekes so that page will need updates as well. LynxTufts (talk) 17:04, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
195.248.81.66
- Username
- 195.248.81.66 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Husker Du (filter log)
- Description
- Add the term 'vocalist' after Bassist and before Greg Norton, as Greg was also a singer in the band though much less often than Bob or Grant. See songs, From the gut, Blah, Blah, Blah and Everytime.
- Date and time
- 17:24, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done It was the word "Blah" in the edit summary that tripped the filter. Thänk you for your contribütions. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 17:50, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Jacdiaz
- Username
- Jacdiaz (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Love and Hip Hop (filter log)
- Description
- Tried adding a J. Cole song that references the show. Included links.
- Date and time
- 05:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Done Everything appears to be in order. EggRoll97 (talk) 10:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Ahh 'member star wars?
- Username
- Ahh 'member star wars? (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Eleven Seven Music (filter log)
- Description
- It said there was material that seemed like advertising, which I figured could only be the "features blah, blah and blah" on their roster since they were some of the bigger and well known bands associated with them. Removed that, and mentioned that they also have Under Better Noise Records, and cited that.
- Date and time
- 22:44, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Done. @Ahh 'member star wars?: It was the "blah" in the edit summary again. Thank you for your contributions. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:53, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
84.249.23.158
- Username
- 84.249.23.158 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Divine madness (filter log)
- Description
- Add Village idiot to the links at the bottom as the role is similar.
- Date and time
- 03:59, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Done Thanks for your contributions. EggRoll97 (talk) 08:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
2A02:C7D:150F:F400:2CF4:B576:C49:229F
- Username
- 2A02:C7D:150F:F400:2CF4:B576:C49:229F (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Imperial royals did not have relations with non imperial royals did not LOVE officers jeopardizing their royal position. from family not censored
- Date and time
- 18:23, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Filter working as intended. /64 rangeblocked by Edgar181. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Boonewikip
- Username
- Boonewikip (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- User talk:Boonewikip (filter log)
- Description
- Trying to respond to a message.
- Date and time
- 01:34, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Hmm seems user has a point. Am I missing something? 01:35, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Jamessssyyyyyygg
- Username
- Jamessssyyyyyygg (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 09:10, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Working as intended. I don't think there's any reason on Earth why you would need to make that change... EggRoll97 (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
186.137.87.137
- Username
- 186.137.87.137 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Mark Sanger(filter log)
- Description
- I edited a page of someone who is working on the Detective Pikachu Film. And I changed its title (which was the working title of the film) to the official title. But some idiot thought that the official title WASN’T the official title. So he undid my edit. I wanted to re-edit it. But I can’t.
- Date and time
- 03:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Don't call people an 'idiot' in the edit summary and you should be able to make the edit. LynxTufts (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Browk2512
- Username
- Browk2512 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Stormy Daniels–Donald Trump scandal (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to add a line about the part in the book where she describes Donald's privates as looking like toad from mario kart. Unfortunately it blocked the edit.
- Date and time
- 17:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- The proposed edit is not relevant enough to the page's subject to be included. LynxTufts (talk) 18:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Sure... Why is a direct quote from her book on the page about her book also blocked? I tried to quote a reference from Stormy Daniels book but was censored. Why is any mention of the contents of Stormy Daniels book censored as 'An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, so it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error. Disruptive editing may result in a block from editing.'. Is it because he a has a Toad dick? Censorship plan and simple. You people have the fucking cheek to ask for money when you are a political organisation. -Unsigned comment by 86.14.120.139 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- It is not 'blocked' - certain users are restricted from inserting certain words because, 99.9% of the time, they are used for vandalism. Also, your edit is both unsourced, and not even close to written in an encyclopedic way. LynxTufts (talk) 16:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Jillsherman
- Username
- Jillsherman (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- [[1]] (filter log)
- Description
- change "dink Tracy" to "Dick Tracy"
- Date and time
- 15:48, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Confused here - it looks like your edit is trying to do the opposite? LynxTufts (talk) 16:48, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Ro4329
- Username
- Ro4329 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Pingyao International Film Festival (filter log)
- Description
- Correcting some grammar involving dates making the dates easier to read.
- Date and time
- 13:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
@Ro4329: Remove 'lol' from the edit summary and you should be fine. It is included in the filter because it is strangely common for vandals to put a random 'lol' in the middle of a page. LynxTufts (talk) 16:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done anyway, because I needed to test a script. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Patrialt
- Username
- Patrialt (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Chickenhead (filter log)
- Description
- Added a definition of chickenhead as described in a novel by Philip K. Dick. Linked to the novel's wiki page.
- Date and time
- 15:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Patrialt: Done. @MusikAnimal: Maybe the "Dick" exceptions that already apply to the article text should apply to the edit summary also? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:36, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Ricocolley
- Username
- Ricocolley (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Justin Raisen (filter log)
- Description
- I was updating his page with a more comprehensive discography, more recent photo and updated infobox.
- Date and time
- 17:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Ricocolley: Done, but that was a major change to the article, and someone might object and revert the change. Please consider adding more references when you get a chance. If you are wondering, it was the word "sucker" that tripped the filter. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
69.94.217.188
- Username
- 69.94.217.188 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Faker (video gamer) (filter log)
- Description
- In preparation for the 2018 League of Legends World Championship, I wanted to edit the Wikipedia page for Lee "Faker" Sang-Hyeok to reflect SKT T1's failure to qualify for the tournament. As the article stands, the information is outdated and contemporary with August 2018.
- Date and time
- 01:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Done. Unfortunately, "lol" is a common vandal word and it occured in the URL of source you cited. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Coolmatt123
- Username
- Coolmatt123 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- Date and time
- 08:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Yeah no. EggRoll97 (talk) 09:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
65.28.174.107
- Username
- 65.28.174.107 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- too much of a pain in the ass. if your software doesn't work, fix it, but don't waste my time debugging your software.
- Date and time
- 02:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- The edit filter is working as intended. Blocking pedophile under certain conditions does more good than harm. Someone should take a deeper look at the content of your edit shortly to judge its appropriateness (I do not have time right now). — Godsy (TALKCONT) 01:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Icy13
- Username
- Icy13 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Chilling effect (filter log)
- Description
- Was trying to add the concrete example from popular media (below) to illustrate the legal principle to a non-expert audience
"In Season 2, episode 8 of The West Wing, Toby Ziegler explains to Leo McGarry that the real stakes of the school prayer fight are the chilling effect that allowing even 'voluntary' school prayers has on children who are not part of the dominant religion:
TOBY: But I'll tell you why [School Prayer] should be front and center. It's not the first amendment, it's not religious freedom, it's not church and state, it's not... abstract... LEO: What is it? TOBY: It's the fourth grader who gets his ass kicked at recess 'cause he sat out the voluntary prayer in homeroom. It's another way of making kids different from other kids when they're required by law to be there. That’s why you want it front and center; fourth grader; that's the prize."
- Date and time
- 16:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @Icy13: Can you cite a reliable source which discusses that episode as an example of a chilling effect? That's a reasonable interpretation, but Wikipedia is not about our interpretations but those published elsewhere. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: I can reasonably be considered a subject matter expert on the chilling effect concept (I am a PhD candidate in political science). While I have reviewed the policy on Wikipedia:Expert editors, I believe I am in compliance because I am providing information which is not about my own research, is not a synthesis of other research, but merely presents an example which increases understanding of a legal concept to a non-expert audience much as I would to my students. Such examples are common on other pages which deal with technical concepts both with and without external citation (cf. the last line of this section: State within a state#United_Kingdom. While I understand the encyclopedic purpose of Wikipedia requires documentation whenever possible, the stakes of providing an undocumented example from personal expertise seem to be much lower than the benefit of providing an accessible example from popular media. Put in other words, what sort of citation would be possible here? Experts would simply make the comparison in their course while explaining to students. It is highly unlikely that such an example would be published since it is a convenient comparison rather than new empirical evidence. Based on the WP:OR#cite_note-Exists-1, the fact that such an example would be used in a college class even if it cannot be accessed online or cited is considered a reliable source by definition.Icy13 (talk) 22:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Icy13: I've copied this over to Talk:Chilling effect as that seems like a better place to discuss this. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:06, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: I can reasonably be considered a subject matter expert on the chilling effect concept (I am a PhD candidate in political science). While I have reviewed the policy on Wikipedia:Expert editors, I believe I am in compliance because I am providing information which is not about my own research, is not a synthesis of other research, but merely presents an example which increases understanding of a legal concept to a non-expert audience much as I would to my students. Such examples are common on other pages which deal with technical concepts both with and without external citation (cf. the last line of this section: State within a state#United_Kingdom. While I understand the encyclopedic purpose of Wikipedia requires documentation whenever possible, the stakes of providing an undocumented example from personal expertise seem to be much lower than the benefit of providing an accessible example from popular media. Put in other words, what sort of citation would be possible here? Experts would simply make the comparison in their course while explaining to students. It is highly unlikely that such an example would be published since it is a convenient comparison rather than new empirical evidence. Based on the WP:OR#cite_note-Exists-1, the fact that such an example would be used in a college class even if it cannot be accessed online or cited is considered a reliable source by definition.Icy13 (talk) 22:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
RockMagnetist
- Username
- RockMagnetist (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Predator (filter log)
- Description
- The following book is self-published, but only as an eBook edition following multiple editions published by reputable publishers: Pianka, Eric R. (2011). Evolutionary ecology (7th (eBook) ed.). Eric R. Pianka
- Date and time
- 04:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- @RockMagnetist: It was actually warning you about a different citation: "
{{cite book |chapter=4. Predator-prey relationships |last1=Simon |first1=Verne A. |title=Adaptations in the animal kingdom |date=2010 |publisher=Xlibris Corporation |isbn=9781450033664|pages=29–30}}
". See Xlibris. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)- Oh, o.k. I didn't realize that was self-published. I only used it to state something obvious, so I'll just remove it. RockMagnetist(talk) 04:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
86.7.223.84
- Username
- 86.7.223.84 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- List of minor The Mighty Boosh characters (filter log)
- Description
- Cleaning up a character entry
- Date and time
- 18:49, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
... it's been three days and three other false positives have been added and addressed, what gives? 86.7.223.84 (talk) 13:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
2600:8807:281:C200:88E2:73CE:88FE:3FB0
- Username
- 2600:8807:281:C200:88E2:73CE:88FE:3FB0 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Page not specified
- Description
- false inf
- Date and time
- 18:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Filter working as intended. You were attempting to remove a whole section of apparently well-sourced content from Alpha Kappa Nu. If there's a good reason to do so, supply a more detailed reason than "false inf" in the edit summary, or better yet, at the talk page. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:13, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Martin Lee Smith
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- Martin Lee Smith (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Kutrigurs (filter log)
- Description
- I tried to edit the page but the edit was disallowed for unknown reason. It is not destructive.
- Date and time
- 21:26, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Let's see how Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PavelStaykov turns out first. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:38, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
165.228.147.244
- Username
- 165.228.147.244 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- List of Apple II clones (filter log)
- Description
- I was trying to add the Cat, one of the more well known and upgraded Apple II clones made by Dick Smith Electronics of Australia
- Date and time
- 04:45, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- It's a legitimate edit (see http://www.thepcmuseum.com/dicksmith/Cat/default.htm). I have added Cat (computer) to the article. I suspect it was the word "Dick" which tripped the edit filter. DH85868993 (talk) 10:40, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
165.228.147.244
- Username
- 165.228.147.244 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Cat (disambiguation) (filter log)
- Description
- Retarded filter has again blocked a legitimate entry. Was attempting to add an entry for the Dick Smith Electronics Cat Apple II clone
- Date and time
- 04:56, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- It's a legitimate edit (see http://www.thepcmuseum.com/dicksmith/Cat/default.htm). I have added Cat (computer) to the article. I suspect it was the word "Dick" which tripped the edit filter. DH85868993 (talk) 10:41, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Kileydougherty
- Username
- Kileydougherty (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- 59th Medical Wing (filter log)
- Description
- Significant update to the Research portion of this page which includes updates merge of facilities.
- Date and time
- 15:15, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
- Not done. Appears to be purely promotional material that isn't related to the article. Additionally, part of it was a copyright violation of https://www.59mdw.af.mil/Units/Chief-Scientist-ST/ .--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 15:18, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
LTPHarry
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- LTPHarry (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- Manga Entertainment (filter log)
- Description
- Not sure if this is a False Positive or not, but the mangauk.com website is registered on Wikipedia's blacklist, and it's not a bad site (if you get what I mean), as it is the official website to Manga Entertainment UK, where you can buy their products from.
- Date and time
- 12:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Not done Wrong place for blacklist discussions. EggRoll97 (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Further, "[sites] where you can buy their products from" are generally not permitted, especially if they have been included in promotional editing/spamming in the past, so unlikely to be removed from the blacklist. General Ization Talk 15:22, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Uglyskein
- Username
- Uglyskein (talk · contribs) (filter log)
- Page you were editing
- apeshit
- Description
- APESHIT is the official title
- Date and time
- 11:17, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comments
Done. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 17:29, 27 September 2018 (UTC)