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China

Zhu Yudong

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I can’t see any in depth coverage in RIS to indicate that this subject is notable. There may be sources in Chinese I didn’t manage to turn up - if not this article should go. Mccapra (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Authors, and China. Mccapra (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Xiangbing

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Significant coverage not found Runmastery (talk) 09:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is just a CV (and not a very good one, at that), with zero evidence of notability. Fails WP:GNG / WP:BIO. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing found about this person, the source used isn't acceptable. Very easy delete. Oaktree b (talk) 11:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: definitely fails notability criteria, no reliable sources. --BoraVoro (talk) 13:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I just blocked one of the editors trying to hijack this, so let’s finish the job. Daniel Case (talk) 14:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No matching individual found at zh:一帶一路; can't even verify the dude's name, much less search for Chinese language sources about him. Folly Mox (talk) 18:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete - per A7. Jdcomix (talk) 21:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Ogan

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CEO of a small hedge fund, not large enough to lend notability to either; not long out of university, with few publications. The references are about related topics but not about Ogan, who is mentioned tangetially if at all. Searches find routine listing and social media (with insufficient followers to use that to justify notability). Klbrain (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, China, and United States of America. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The majority of the articles are about Tesla or a Chinese car company; Ogan is asked about what he thinks about xyz thing... None of these are about Ogan. There is no coverage about this individual and this shows a lack of notability. I don't find any articles we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 22:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Manchukuo Government

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This seems to have been a joke in 2009, and now it's over. WP:N isn't temporary, but 2/3rds of the sources aren't reliable or aren't primary about the topic, leaving what I count as three-to-five bemused NOWNews/Ming Pao pieces that read more like Buzzfeed than Buzzfeed News. Maybe that sounds like enough to others, but given the facile substance I really don't think they need an article. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Royalty and nobility, and China. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to make myself late for work again so not really much time to look for sources etc., but my initial impression is a slight leaning merge to Manchukuo § In popular culture. Please remind me to circle back this week. I've got a lot going on and will likely forget. Folly Mox (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. There aren't more sources. Everything I'm finding with keywords in English or Chinese falls into one of three buckets: 1. Wikimedia sites 2. "official" websites of the group 3. false positives.
This does seem to be some kind of joke, or perhaps an earnestly serious effort by a half dozen college students with no self-awareness, that reads as a joke to everyone else. In any case, it certainly doesn't deserve treatment as a government in exile nor as a legitimate independence movement.
It is – to me – extremely funny that the second emperor elected by the group was a kid in New York with no claims of ties to Manchuria, and I think the absurdity of this whole thing deserves preservation, probably against content guidelines, so I'm landing at merge, and like Microplastic Consumer's merge target suggestion below equally well as my own suggestion above. Folly Mox (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting for funsies that the zh.wp article is disambiguated with (Internet Country), and ==See also==s Micronation. Folly Mox (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Manchurian Nationalism, the government in exile doesn't seem to be very serious. Seems to be either run by trolls or Japanese nationalists as opposed to a serious independence movement Microplastic Consumer (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerry Chen

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Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable entrepreneur who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Promo article. Fjnat (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and China. Shellwood (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 August 2. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 17:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, meets WP:GNG. They are at least three sources in the article that gives him significant coverage. Subject had won and received nominations for various awards alongside notable Chinese entrepreneurs. Nothing looks promotional in the article but if they exist AFD is not a place to treat promotional issues, it should be cleaned up. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep has received WP:SIGCOV in RS and satisfies WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 10:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No effective references to establish notability. No sign of independent sigcov. The subject has NOT received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

1).None of the references cited in the article are reliable sources and most of them are written in a promotional tone, especially the Chinese ones.

2).The "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" is NOT published by Fortune Magazine, but by the Chinese version of the magazine. The Chinese version of the magazine is far less reliable than that of the English version. The "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" is far less influential and recognizable than that of the Fortune Magazine's 40 under 40 List. Being included on the "Fortune China's 40 Under 40 List" doesn't establish notability. As for the rest of the nominations and awards, they do even less to establish notability.

3).A further in-depth search also failed to show any reliable, independent secondary sources about him. Fjnat (talk) 12:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are the nominator and your nomination statement is your deletion comment/vote. You cannot vote twice. Closing admin please take note of this. Ednabrenze (talk) 20:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it passes notability guidelines. This reporting by China Daily [1] and this from China News Network [2] are reliable and significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Aadditionally, the subject has been listed in the Fortune China 40 Business Elites Under 40 and has also appeared in the Shanghai Top Ten Internet Entrepreneurs as well as being nominated for Green China Person of the Year 2020-2021. These are significant business notability particularly in China – a country of over a billion people. The Fortune China 40 Business Elites Under 40 is credible, reliable and notable in China and all count for the subject’s notability. Teto Amo (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep before search and review of the cited references show WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable secondary sources. Runmastery (talk) 09:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Forbes has become deprecated. Does not pass GNG. Bearian (talk) 00:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong related deletions

Manchukuo Government

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This seems to have been a joke in 2009, and now it's over. WP:N isn't temporary, but 2/3rds of the sources aren't reliable or aren't primary about the topic, leaving what I count as three-to-five bemused NOWNews/Ming Pao pieces that read more like Buzzfeed than Buzzfeed News. Maybe that sounds like enough to others, but given the facile substance I really don't think they need an article. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Royalty and nobility, and China. Remsense诉 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to make myself late for work again so not really much time to look for sources etc., but my initial impression is a slight leaning merge to Manchukuo § In popular culture. Please remind me to circle back this week. I've got a lot going on and will likely forget. Folly Mox (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. There aren't more sources. Everything I'm finding with keywords in English or Chinese falls into one of three buckets: 1. Wikimedia sites 2. "official" websites of the group 3. false positives.
This does seem to be some kind of joke, or perhaps an earnestly serious effort by a half dozen college students with no self-awareness, that reads as a joke to everyone else. In any case, it certainly doesn't deserve treatment as a government in exile nor as a legitimate independence movement.
It is – to me – extremely funny that the second emperor elected by the group was a kid in New York with no claims of ties to Manchuria, and I think the absurdity of this whole thing deserves preservation, probably against content guidelines, so I'm landing at merge, and like Microplastic Consumer's merge target suggestion below equally well as my own suggestion above. Folly Mox (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting for funsies that the zh.wp article is disambiguated with (Internet Country), and ==See also==s Micronation. Folly Mox (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Manchurian Nationalism, the government in exile doesn't seem to be very serious. Seems to be either run by trolls or Japanese nationalists as opposed to a serious independence movement Microplastic Consumer (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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China

Zhu Yudong

Wang Xiangbing

Taylor Ogan

Manchukuo Government

Kerry Chen

Hong Kong related deletions

Manchukuo Government

Taiwan related deletions