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Louie Knight (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Protagonist of non-notable series. Boleyn (talk) 19:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename/refocus on book series. We have a few straggler articles like this, where it’s written after the protagonist and not the series, and when the series is notable it’s best to refocus and not delete. A lot of the plot would be reusable for that so it’s not quite like writing a whole different article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Private Eye Action, as You Like It (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article has been tagged as unsourced since 2009. I looked for reviews via Google, Google Scholar, ProQuest, Kirkus, Publishers Weekly, Booklist, Newspaper Archive, and JSTOR to no avail. There is an ISFDB listing, but it doesn't include any secondary verifications or reviews. I would redirect to the author, but this book has two authors, so I think the best option is to delete if NBOOK cannot be met. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob's Ladder (Keaney novel) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG tagged for notability for a decade. Won some non-notable awards. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 15:45, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Reviewed in Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books, Kirkus. all are on ProQuest which is a WPL resource). Shorter review in Horn Book Guide. Don’t have the time on my hands rn to look further, sorry :(. If not notable, should redirect to the author. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at proquest this time and those didn't seem particularly indepth. Even then it wouldn't meet WP:THREE Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NBOOK is two so WP:THREE doesn’t matter. Yes I haven’t had time to check, including newspapers or other book review sources, hence why I did not vote. Particularly in depth is not a requirement, merely that they be significant. I have not assessed this PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added three reviews, more than satisfying WP:NBOOK. Certainly a paltry article, but not qualified for deletion. Οἶδα (talk) 06:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perilous Passage (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Too little to sufficiently meet the GNG to have its own article. A mention on the author's own article page is sufficient. Iljhgtn (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep apologies as I am too busy to format this, but searching the title on ProQuest shows that this has reviews in Choice magazine, Labour magazine, Journal of World History, Science & Society and probably more. ProQuest is a WPL resource so it can be verified that way. Passes NBOOK PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Land of Memories (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline. Cfls (talk) 00:36, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:

    A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:

    1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
    Sources
    1. Zhu, Jianhua 朱建华 (2023-10-19). "清华教授用AI创作的科幻作品,参赛并获奖" [Tsinghua Professor's AI-Created Sci-Fi Work Competes and Wins an Award]. Wuhan Evening News [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-10. Retrieved 2024-10-10.

      The article notes: "前后对话66次,清华大学新闻与传播学院教授沈阳利用AI平台创作的科幻作品《机忆之地》(参评时署名“@硅禅”),在第五届江苏省青年科普科幻作品大赛评选中获评二等奖。10月18日中午,本报记者联系上江苏省科普作家协会科幻专委会主任付昌义,他表示,在他的印象中,之前还没有利用AI创作的科幻作品参加比赛并获奖,这是第一次。"

      From Google Translate: "After 66 exchanges of dialogue, Professor Shen Yang from Tsinghua University's School of Journalism and Communication used an AI platform to create the sci-fi work 'Memory Land' (submitted under the name ‘@Silicon Zen’), which won second prize in the fifth Jiangsu Province Youth Science Popularization and Sci-Fi Work Competition. On the afternoon of 18 October, our reporter contacted Fu Changyi, the director of the Sci-Fi Committee of the Jiangsu Provincial Association of Science Writers. He stated that, to his knowledge, this is the first time a sci-fi work created using AI has participated in a competition and won an award."

    2. Shen, Zhao 沈昭 (2023-10-22). "AI作家@硅禅的科幻小说得奖了 它是怎么写出的获奖作品《机忆之地》?" [AI writer @ Silicon Zen’s science fiction novel won an award. How did it write the award-winning work "The Place of Memories"?]. Yangtse Evening Post (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-10. Retrieved 2024-10-10.

      The article notes: "《机忆之地》是清华大学沈阳教授团队使用AICG(人工智能创意生成)创作而成的,小说的标题、配图等内容均由AI生成,在最初提交的时候并没有特意标注出自人工智能之手,和其他人类作者的作品经过层层筛选送到了六位终审评委的面前。这篇小说讲述了一名元宇宙探险家李晓寻找记忆的故事,李晓曾经是一名神经工程师,在一次实验中失去了关于家人的记忆,她对“机忆之地”的传说有了浓厚的兴趣,希望借此找回自己遗失的记忆。"

      From Google Translate: ""The Land of Machine Memories" was created by a team of professors from Shenyang, Tsinghua University, using AICG (artificial intelligence creative generation). The title, illustrations and other content of the novel were all generated by AI. When it was initially submitted, it was not specifically marked as being produced by artificial intelligence. The works of other human authors were screened and sent to the six final judges. This novel tells the story of Li Xiao, a metaverse explorer who searches for memories. Li Xiao was once a neuroengineer who lost the memory of her family during an experiment. She became familiar with the legend of the "Land of Machine Memories". I have a strong interest in it, hoping to retrieve my lost memory."

    3. Wang, Tingsu 王亭苏 (2023-10-24). He, Rui 何睿 (ed.). "AI小说获科幻奖,人工智能时代文学如何自处?" [AI novel wins science fiction award. How should literature fare in the era of artificial intelligence?]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-10. Retrieved 2024-10-10 – via Sohu.

      The article notes: "据报道,一本名为《机忆之地》的小说,于近日在江苏青年科普科幻作品大赛中获得了二等奖。随后,清华大学新闻学院教授沈阳在其个人社交账号上发布消息,称这篇小说从笔名、标题、正文到配图,“100%的内容都是AI写的”。"

      From Google Translate: "According to reports, a novel titled "The Land of Machine Memories" recently won the second prize in the Jiangsu Youth Popular Science Science Fiction Competition. Subsequently, Shen Yang, a professor at the School of Journalism at Tsinghua University, posted on his personal social account that "100% of the content of this novel was written by AI" from the pen name, title, text to illustrations."

    4. Lalonde, Catherine (2024-01-08). "A literary prize for an artificial writer". Le Devoir. Archived from the original on 2024-10-10. Retrieved 2024-10-10.

      The article notes: "“At the edge of the metaverse lies the Land of Memories, a forbidden realm from which humans are excluded.” So begins The Land of Memories , a prize-winning short story at the fifth Jiangsu Science Fiction Literary Competition. The text was generated by Shen Yang, professor emeritus at the School of Journalism at Tsinghua University in Beijing, using artificial intelligence (AI). ... Mr. Shen worked with the AI ​​for three hours, giving it 66 commands, to get a rough draft of 43,000 characters. The professor then cut, sculpted and refined this first draft, to arrive at a manuscript of some 6,000 Chinese characters, Land of Memories ( also translated by some media as Land of Machine Memory )."

    5. Chik, Holly (2023-12-20). "A Chinese professor used AI to write a science fiction novel. Then it was a winner in a national competition". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2023-12-22. Retrieved 2024-10-10.

      The article notes: "When a professor at Beijing’s Tsinghua University set out to write a science fiction novel about the metaverse and humanoid robots, he turned to artificial intelligence for inspiration. The AI ended up generating his entire book – which then took out a national science fiction award honour. The nearly 6,000-character Chinese-language novel Land of Memories, by Shen Yang, a professor at the university’s school of journalism and communication, was among the winners of the Jiangsu Youth Popular Science Science Fiction Competition, Jinan Times, a newspaper in Shandong province reported. ... The story centres on a metaverse explorer named Li Xiao, who used to be a neural engineer in the real world. After accidentally losing all memories of her family during an experiment, she becomes interested in the legend of the Land of Memories, and hopes that her lost memories can be retrieved in the metaverse."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Land of Memories (simplified Chinese: 机忆之地; traditional Chinese: 機憶之地) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 06:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sweep (book series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find enough good sources to add to show these meet WP:NBOOK / WP:GNG. Possible WP:ATD of merge/redirect to Cate Tiernan, but I am not sure how ambiguous the title is. Boleyn (talk) 21:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep just... nuke 90% of it. Searching the individual book's names on ProQuest and EBSCO resulted in several reviews and per WP:PAGEDECIDE and WP:NBOOK it is probably better we have one article. The series itself may also pass GNG: it was released as Wicca, only called Sweep in the US, under which there is an entire journal article discussing the series as a whole and its themes (doi:10.1007/s10583-007-9058-). Haven't done a deeper look though. But wow overdetailed. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to Deipnosophistae. Star Mississippi 01:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Characters of the Deipnosophistae (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BEFORE finds that most of these are barely mentioned. Article describes itself as an "index" and "minor", making it difficult to obtain WP:SIGCOV. I would consider a redirect to Deipnosophistae and thought it was best to discuss WP:ATD. Jontesta (talk) 01:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is an argument to merge presented as a deletion discussion: the list is clearly relevant to the Deipnosophistae, and there is nothing wrong about treating it; the question is whether it should be a stand-alone list or part of the main article. Since the main article isn't that long, it seems perfectly feasible to merge this list there, without losing any of its contents—although perhaps it could be reformatted to make it take up less space (and if not, it's still better preserved there than deleted). If more content or discussion in secondary sources can be added, the list can remain separate, or be split off again at a later time. P Aculeius (talk) 14:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge cut down to main page. The characters seem an important aspect, and the main article is not long. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively per PARAKANYAA. This doesn't have WP:SIGCOV, but the bits that are sourced can be WP:PRESERVED. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of The Magicians characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article is mostly unsourced or cited to unreliable sources. WP:BEFORE did not indicate WP:SIGCOV but I could understand a redirect to The Magicians (American TV series). Jontesta (talk) 01:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, it would be helpful for the nominator to respond to the newly found sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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