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Islam

Kurdistan Islamic Relations Movement

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Article about a very small political party that claims a few thousand members and has failed to get anyone elected to anything, securing 0.08% of the vote. Does not pass WP:NCORP. Mccapra (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics, Islam, and Iraq. Mccapra (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft. Incomplete text, add more headlines, history, steps of the movement, UzbukUdash (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no point in draftifying an article on a non-notable topic, because no amount of editing will make it ready for mainspace. The issue isn’t the lack of headlines or detail. Quite the reverse - as it stands there is a lot of detail about a non-notable topic. Mccapra (talk) 07:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IslamPidia

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Despite the reference bombing, the many citations are a combination of unreliable sources, directory listings, or brief mentions of the subject (at best, a fair few don't mention it at all). Upon searching, I cannot find better available reference material, so I believe that this website is not notable. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there is no independent and secondary sources. Mehedi Abedin 20:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Islamophobic incidents

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Since I nominated List of antisemitic incidents in the United States I should nominate this too, since it has the exact same problems.

Extremely, extremely broad and vague scope, with barely any quality control. Making this list anywhere close to comprehensive coverage of its baffling scope would be impossible, and would mostly contain low level news stories (as it does). If this was going to be a selection of notable pages (and changing it to that would require deleting 99% of the list) maybe, but the problem is in the title still: "Incident". Incident is so broad as to be useless, it can be anywhere from a terrorist attack to someone calling someone a mean word on the bus, this is a completely un manageable scope. Anti-Muslim terror acts or hate crimes targeted at mosques would likely meet NLIST, and if there is consensus to rescope to that we can, but that would also require nuking most of the page. Also, weasel words: "could be considered Islamophobic"? What? Also has WP:BLPCRIME concerns in that it accuses people of crimes without convictions. It also has WP:NOTNEWS issues, which is not inherently a problem for a list, but is a problem when it's based on an inherently POV and negative concept and one with a scope as vague and with as many possible entries as "incident" PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Discrimination, Islam, and Lists. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: The list should be rescoped to only contain notable events with broad coverage. It may also be viable to rename it to something like "List of Islamophobic terror attacks" or "List of Islamophobic hate crimes", depending on the new scope. I don't think outright deleting the page would be productive. Regards, SirBrahms (talk) 07:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: I don't know why you are doing this. But this list is super-duper notable. Lots of references are added to the article. Jannatulbaqi (talk) 13:33, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notability for lists is not predicated off of how many citations are referencing the individual items. If the concept of the list is not manageable or is not notable then it can be deleted. There is no way to have this article in a manner that does not violate WP:What Wikipedia is not PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or rescope to only focus on notable incidents agree with nom that this is not a managable list in its current form due to the volume of coverage of incidents. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:30, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nearly all of these incidents are non-notable. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 15:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Draftify - WP:SALAT indicates list articles should not be overly broad. This article probably could exist if the subsections were there own articles with relevant and useful selection criteria. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rescope for the same reasons that led to the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of antisemitic incidents in the United States. The list can be sourced and focused on a non-indiscriminate collection, so it's a matter of editing, not deletion. --cyclopia ^speak! 10:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you propose rescoping it to? PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The article has become a collection of largely non-notable incidents. Lorstaking (talk) 17:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is no consensus. Few of the arguments presented are based on Wikipedia policies and guidelines. That would be helpful in future contributions to this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bluethricecreamman/SALAT: too broad, plus the incidents are mostly unnotable. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uşşaki

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Tagged uncited for years but hard to find sources as apparently not the same as https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/U%C5%9F%C5%9Faki_Tarikat%C4%B1 The source on the Turkish article seems like it might be a wiki or somesuch so perhaps not reliable? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Islam, Iraq, and Turkey. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I see various books in English covering this significantly; also two reliable references on the corresponding article in French. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank What books in English please? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added some to the page.

By the way, you have currently opened 27 Afds regarding Turkey-related articles. It is an extremely (and in my view exceedingly) high number for one nominator, especially concerning one topic, and it happens to be very challenging for interested users to find sources and even !vote. I understand you take to Afds pages that are unsourced but, precisely, it takes a lot of time to find sources. At the very least, I am inviting you to kindly slow down your nominations; personally, I would even suggest that you stop further nominations until the present ones are closed. Thank you very much. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Uzbekistan-related deletion discussions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep plenty of Turkish sources found but as Mushy Yank says above it’s quite a task to plough through Turkish books online to update the article. Mccapra (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 19:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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