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edit- Black River Formation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No effective references. Reason given for revert is neither a policy or a guidelines and duplicates content from in Black River Group. scope_creepTalk 14:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep deletion should be based on Notability not article quality Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. As has been told to me before, sources need not already be in the article to prove notability, heck I've nominated articles for deletion that end up being kept based on sources not in the article. Here are some sources for notability: [1], [2], [3]. Lavalizard101 (talk) 15:07, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing the article is not notable. There is another article in much more detail that this article is duplicating, based on your sprurious read of non-policy or even guidelines. Yes that is true, but not when the article is under review. We don't leave the thing blank for the reader to somehow magically divine whether the article is true or not or is even if its encyclopeadic. It is really sloppy practice not to reference it correctly. scope_creepTalk 16:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Your deletion argument is about quality, which is literally listed on Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Lavalizard101 (talk) 16:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing the article is not notable. There is another article in much more detail that this article is duplicating, based on your sprurious read of non-policy or even guidelines. Yes that is true, but not when the article is under review. We don't leave the thing blank for the reader to somehow magically divine whether the article is true or not or is even if its encyclopeadic. It is really sloppy practice not to reference it correctly. scope_creepTalk 16:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge This article can be merged into the Black Rock Group as this is the same stratigraphic unit as it is known in in North America. there is an abundance of published papers that can be found in Google Scholar for "Black Rock River Formation". Paul H. (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Australasian Association for Logic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of WP:NORG notability. C F A 💬 22:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Best source I could find is this section in A Companion to Philosophy in Australia and New Zealand. Few other brief mentions [4][5][6][7]. Probably doesn't pass GNG or NORG, but it seems to be important in history of philosophy of logic in Australia. A merge might be possible if there is a good location, maybe Australian philosophy, University of New England (Australia) or Australasian Association of Philosophy. The annual conference proceedings were also published by the Association for Symbolic Logic. If there's no appropriate location then delete or draftify. Shapeyness (talk) 10:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tarsus Waterfall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I did a search and this does not seem to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 18:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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- List of second-level administrative divisions by population (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BEFORE scan shows that this page fails WP:LISTN. Seems like original research to me -1ctinus📝🗨 16:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I welcome this new user's contributions, but they likely were not aware that drafts are preferred for incomplete pages. Anyway, it's not original research to simply list the populations of geographic entities or even to group second-level divisions, but I don't think it's very helpful to combine counties of one country and provinces of another, which have entirely different forms of governments and organizations. These have very different levels of responsibility and relationships to 1st and 3rd levels, and there is very little to be learned from this. The page is intended to be comparable to List of second-level administrative divisions by area, but I don't see the point of having that either. Reliable sources do not make these comparisons, so it's not a notable list. Reywas92Talk 17:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that drafts are preferred for incomplete pages. The Draft: namespace is where pages go to die. The mainspace is where pages go to be developed into better articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- They go to die if the author lets them die. Merely being in mainspace does not mean anyone else wants to finish making it. If you are starting something from scratch like this, it should absolutely be done in draft rather than putting a mostly-empty table in main. I guess we'll save the author some work though since it's likely to be deleted anyway! Reywas92Talk 01:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that drafts are preferred for incomplete pages. The Draft: namespace is where pages go to die. The mainspace is where pages go to be developed into better articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: or Draftify. 80:20 Delete:Draftify. I was slightly bewildered by the move history, but now understand it. If the nom had returned it to draft we would not be here. The mover saw, correctly, that draftifying while at AfD was out of process, though a WP:IAR drafification would have been fine IMHO, since this list is not remotely ready for mainspace. Regarding a deletion rationale, this does not appear to be a notable intersection, and the referencing is woefully inadequate. Fails WP:NLIST, and is a broadly empty table awaiting data. However, I do not believe that a full table would be in any way maintainable nor maintained. Regarding a Draftification rationale, as I write this I am finding it harder to justify, primarily because of the maintainability. I have moved from 60:40 to 80:20 with my delete to draftily rationale while typing this opinion. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. This is WP:OR or WP:SYNTH at best. And the list would not be able to pass WP:NLIST according to my BEFORE, hence I side with Timtrent in thinking even if this were to return to the draftspace, I doubt it would be passable. Bobby Cohn (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:OR. A fatal flaw is that "second-level administrative divisions" may have a different meaning from one country to the next, so the list mixes municipalities with provinces (for instance) which makes the list of dubious value. Pichpich (talk) 20:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of second-level administrative divisions by area (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article fails WP:LISTN and appears to be complete WP:SYNTH. -1ctinus📝🗨 18:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Great for Schott's Miscellany, not for Wikipedia. This is a non notable intersection and fails WP:NLIST. This is also unmaintainable. It has taken considerable effort to create, which is unfortunate, but effort does not equate to notability. Referencing is woefully inadequate 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 02:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Second-level divisions are wildly different when it comes to governance and status, and I don't think it's very informative to compare them like this. This is sheer trivia not covered by anyone else. Reywas92Talk 13:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of third-level administrative divisions by area (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:LISTN when looking for sources, seems to be complete WP:SYNTH. A complete article would likely bee tens of thousands of items long. -1ctinus📝🗨 18:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Bouheida (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to add verifying this information. Boleyn (talk) 10:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. Is this Bouhdida? Geschichte (talk) 13:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Bouhdida Geschichte (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bou Lahrath (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to verify this information is correct. Boleyn (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulahrath Geschichte (talk) 13:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
@Boleyn: Communes in Mauritania are significant administrative subdivisions with mayors, deputy mayors and councillors. It is a waste of everyone's time to keep nominating these articles for deletion. It would take less time and would be much more useful if you would expand these stubs.
To find a solid source for any of these communes, check the foot of the article, where you will see.
Click on the link to Communes of Mauritania, scroll down, and you will see
Click on that link, click "ok" in the search box, and you will get a list of all the communes. Click on the link for Bou Lahreth and you see information like
- BOU LAHRATH
- Région : ASSABA
- Commune Collectivités urbaines à vocation agricole, pastorale ou agropastorale
- Le Maire : Zeine O/ Ahmed Salem O/ Kebady PRDS
- Les Maires Adjoints : Ahmed Salem O/ Salem, El Hareth O/ Nouh, Ahmed O/ Bilal, Mohmed Mahmoud O/ Youba, Habiboullah O/ Mohamed Mensour
- Les Conseillers : Abdellahi O/ Naji O/ Khouna ( décedé le27 avril2002 ) Demab O/ Mohamed Radhi Sidi Mahmoud O/ Sidi Mohamed Moustapha O/ Mohamed Habib Mohamedou Naji O/ Outhmane Hadrami O/ Mohamed Abdel Wehab El Ghassem O/ Mohamed Jiddou Mohamed Nouh O/ Mohamed Salem Brahim O/ Mohamed Inejih O/ Bilal Boubacar O/ Salem
Yes, it is indeed a commune of Mauritania in the Assaba Region. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Ufa center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Failed to find sources neither in english nor russian. Tagged unreferenced since 2019 Appears to be machine translated from Bashkir Wikipedia, where there are no refs either. --Altenmann >talk 01:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete it does not seem it can be verified to exist Traumnovelle (talk) 03:08, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete like any city Ufa has a centre but I can’t see any sources in English or Bashkir supporting the claims made in this article. Mccapra (talk) 19:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Jordan, Daviess County, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Baker identifies this as a post office and this 1915 county history identifies it as a station on the old C&EI where there was a mill. That's what it looks like on the maps too: a rail point without a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 11:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Graham, Daviess County, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Baker, in passing, calls this a village, but all I can ever seem to find there is the grain business (now owned by Purdue) which sits next to the tracks as far back as I can see. An 1886 history of the county doesn't mention it, though it mentions various people named Graham. I think this is just a rail point. Mangoe (talk) 02:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Hard to find information, but this book: [8] talks all about the Graham family of Daviess County and never mentions a "community" named Graham, though I couldn't review every page. Pretty thin gruel for an article, especially since topo maps only show this as a couple of buildings by the railroad tracks, and today it's a grain elevator. Neither of these amounts to a populated place as required by WP:NPLACE. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Gölcük Plateau (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I found a cite https://izmir.ktb.gov.tr/EN-348122/picnic-spots.html but that seems to be İzmir not Konya Chidgk1 (talk) 16:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Guda Endla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to verify this. Boleyn (talk) 19:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. There is plenty of evidence that this is a recognised settlement and therefore passes WP:GEOLAND. The police stations reports, for instance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tentative keep. I found three Google news articles about recent crimes in the village. I edited the lead. Could someone else please add the articles to this article? If not, please userfy. Bearian (talk) 02:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: meets WP:NPLACE. There is coverage confirming its existence (e.g. [9][10]) C F A 💬 17:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Mala Ciganlija (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mainly uncited and seemingly vandalised. Perhaps it could be merged in to create a "neighborhoods of Belgrade" article, as, seemingly after 7+ years being marked with onesource, it still remains with only one source. NeoJade ( Talk | Contribs ) • she/they 01:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep + we need more sources. — Sadko (words are wind) 13:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Боки ☎ ✎ 23:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - After a little more reading, I think this may not even pass WP:GNG, searching for the town has on several occasions not brought any results for me. I am still of the belief a merge with a more general "Neighborhoods of Belgrade" could be and should be the way forward as it allows this article to still exist as a redirect, therefore not affecting anything that links here, and also allows for bigger and smaller towns to be on Wikipedia as the neighborhoods are notable as a group, yet probably not individually.
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- Bagrou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can find sources for similarly-named places, but not where I can be sure it is the one this is about. Happy to withdraw if the information can be verified. Boleyn (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, the town's name in Arabic; "بكرو" can be translated as "Bogué" which is a real place (Google Maps) There is also an account of a visit to the town on this blog. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 21:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Adel Bagrou, and clean up {{Communes of Mauritania}} to remove the duplicate.
- The Arabic wiki entry linked to this article, w:ar:بكرو, says (Google translated)
- "Adl Bakrou is a district and municipality located in Hodh Ech Chargui State in Mauritania".
- The Arabic wiki entry linked to Adel Bagrou, w:ar:عدل بكرو, says (Google translated)
- "Adel Bagrou (French: Adel Bagrou), an administrative center in the Hodh El Chargui region , in the southeastern region of Mauritania, located on the border with Mali , in 2000 its population was 36,007..."
- The place is clearly the sizable town and commune in Hodh Ech Chargui Region. (The Bogué (بوكى) found on the map by a Google search is spelled differently in Arabic and is far to the west of Hodh Ech Chargui Region.)
- Alternatively, move to Adel Bagrou (Commune) and clean up, and change Adel Bagrou to only discuss the town. There are plenty of results from a search on عدل_بكرو with information like: "Prime Minister, Mr. Mohamed Ould Bilal Messoud, laid the foundation stone today, Friday, in the Adl Bakrou district for the road linking the cities of Adl Bakrou and Amerj in the Hodh El Chargui state." Aymatth2 (talk) 14:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Adel Bagrou per Aymatth2, as there's nothing to merge. We should also fix the topic-duplication on ar.wiki, which clearly imported the inferior Bagrou article from en.wiki. signed, Rosguill talk 12:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Adel Bagrou: Better to redirect. GrabUp - Talk 11:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Poșta Veche (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redundant dab page. Poșta Veche links directly to Stângăceaua commune and the second entry does not contain this name at all. If it contained it, the solution would be a hatnote on the commune page, not a dab page. FromCzech (talk) 14:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment On ro-wiki, there is also a third and fully fleshed-out ro:Poșta Veche (Belgrad). The term apparently means "old post office". So while this dab page is currently redundant (I agree with nom), it doesn't have to remain so. – sgeureka t•c 08:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: I created Poşta Veche (district). ro:Poșta Veche (Belgrad) already exists here at Old Post Office (Belgrade, Serbia); it just wasn't linked. The village in Romania (ro:Poșta Veche, Mehedinți) may be notable under NPLACE but I couldn't find enough coverage to expand it beyond a sub-stub, so I haven't created it for now. Regardless, the district and the post office are both valid uses of "Poșta Veche" and I don't think there's a primary topic between them. The village in Romania is certainly not the primary topic for "Poșta Veche", so the disambiguation page should be moved to Poșta Veche. C F A 💬 20:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Sandy Hook, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A spot NE of Jackson Pond where the road goes one way and the railroad the other after running in parallel for some distance. Beyond that I have nothing except the one year post office, which is never a good sign. Mangoe (talk) 04:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Seems to meet WP:NPLACE. C F A 💬 23:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Some of the sources linked in the article (like the first and third) don't even mention "Godenu". The fourth source mentions Godenu only once, as the "Gbi-Godenu Volta Region IFAD/SCIMP Project", seemingly a different thing. The second source does mention Godenu, but it's pretty brief. Other sources linked aren't reliable or aren't independent. I can find mentions of Godenu, like in this article, but that's it. toweli (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I don't see any reason to delete this, the problem is it should probably be at Gbi-Godenu instead of its current title. Searching the ruler brings up multiple hits even once you scroll past the primary ones. SportingFlyer T·C 22:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per toweli's comments. There's no significant coverage about this article. Galaxybeing (talk) 10:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom, and because RS don’t support this. —Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 04:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and Rename per Sporting Flyer and:
https://www.royalhouseofgodenu.org/Godenu/ https://www.gbiviwo.com/gbi-godenu-chiefs-queens https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/V-R-Ensure-proper-training-for-recruits-to-save-lives-ndash-Gbi-Godenu-divisional-chief-1836368 https://gna.org.gh/2023/08/clashes-between-gbi-godenu-residents-and-police-leave-two-dead-one-injured/ http://1900.ethnia.org/polity.php?ASK_CODE=GHTF&ASK_YY=1945&ASK_MM=04&ASK_DD=15&SL=en[] https://ghanaiantimes.com.gh/2-die-1-injured-12-arrested-following-clashes-between-police-residents-in-hohoe/ Djflem (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Participants, plesase don't dump a bunch of bare URLS in a discussion with no explanation or sense of priority. Use your experience and knowledge and highlight 3 or 4 of the best secondary source in the form of diffs, please. You all know how to do this.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:38, 28 August 2024 (UTC)