User talk:Smithers/Arc1

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RFA Question

Hi, I noticed one of your questions at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Arbitrarily0, Q5, seems a bit oddly worded. "You come across a article ready for deletion. The amount of people in favor of keeping the article and people in favor of deleting the article is equal. What do you do?" Why is the article "ready for deletion" if you're asking Arbitrarily what they would do? Might you consider changing the wording slightly? I would recommend: "You come across an article at WP:AFD. The amount of people in favor of keeping the article and people in favor of deleting the article is equal. What do you do?" Jujutacular ^T · C 11:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe "the number of people ..." - Dank (push to talk) 21:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Liked your example Jujutacular. Didn't realize that was bad until you mentioned that. Thanks for bringing that up! I'll change it. :-) Smithers (Talk) 01:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Otherwise it's like the old trick question "how often do you..."  ;)  7  01:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Lovely. Smithers (Talk) 01:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up Jujutacular, I left a side-note under the question to address this. It's probably not necessary to change the question at this point Smithers; it should be fine now. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 02:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I realized that. Good luck to you by the way Arbitrarily0! Smithers (Talk) 02:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Seems to be all cleared up, thanks! Jujutacular ^T · C 06:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:that one article whose name I don't remember even though I just tagged it

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Nice to see a new user here.

In answer to your question, you're fine. I wouldn't tag it for CSD G1, only because it doesn't fit exactly. With this article, you can tell that "XXX is a mexican actor married to YYY." That's easy enough. I consider CSD G1 criteria for situations such as when you have an article entitled "Chocolate is delicious" and the content is "I like blue M&Ms more than red ones."

But in this article, I don't consider the subject notable just because members of their family are notable. There would have to be other reasons, too. Otherwise the most the article could become would have to relate to their notable family member. I probably should have tagged it for CSD A7 instead, actually. My mistake.

Anyway, to summarize: you didn't do anything wrong, and you're not in trouble. The criteria under which you tagged the article wasn't perfect, but it worked enough and people make mistakes like that all the time (myself included). The article has been deleted anyway. You seem like a nice person, and it looks like you're off to a good start on Wikipedia. If you have any questions or need any help, just ask me. A little insignificant ^{Giving thanks to all that is me} 16:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and if you're interested in the CSD/AFD area, you might like using Twinkle. It's a bit complex when you first use it, but the ability to automatically tag articles, start and format AFDs, warn users, and report vandals just by clicking a button can be really efficient. A little insignificant ^{Giving thanks to all that is me} 17:01, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

You mean CSD A1? Smithers (Talk) 00:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, yes, I meant A1. I get confused sometimes, sorry :) A little insignificant ^{Giving thanks to all that is me}

No worries! Smithers (Talk) 04:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

In regards to your question

Hello Smithers7, this message is to inform you that WereSpielChequers has replied to your question on my RfA in regards to my deleted contributions. Regards, Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 23:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification! Smithers (Talk) 02:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

AFD of Chateau Marsyas

Thanks for the heads up. A CSD nomination does not affect an AfD nomination (unless it's successful!), so no worries. I don't know if it quite falls under A7, but we'll see. Cheers! --SquidSK ^(1MC•log) 02:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

CSD

Hi Smithers, I have reversed your CSD template on Reerdilaal. It is in fact a copyright violation, as far as I can tell. I need to ask you, though, to not be too quick on the draw: even though this may have looked like gibberish to you, it might not be. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 06:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay. That is totally fine. I do ask though what is was if it wasn't gibberish? Smithers (Talk) 01:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Good question. I think it was either Somali or Malaysian, judging from the few hits I saw, but I'm not that broadly educated as a linguist. The nice thing about WP, there's lots of geeks with lots of different expertises. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 02:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the help! Smithers (Talk) 02:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

RfA

Regarding your questions for MrKIA11 here, what were you thinking with Question 4? The question was "When are Cool Down Blocks acceptable?" You just gave him the answer... I've now deleted the link to the answer. Hopefully he won't notice it was ever there. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

It isn't uncommon for someone to do that. It is actually a test to see whether the candidate totally copies the page or not when it's right in front of him or if he truly knows it. I am fine with you deleting the link though. Thanks for letting me know though. Regards, Smithers (Talk) 07:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh. My apologies. I just figured it would be better to see if they knew without the policy in front of them, because then it forces them to either know it already or search by themselves rather than seeing how well they can reword something. Still, sorry for deleting the link if you had meant to put it in. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 11:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries! Smithers (Talk) 01:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

carl lezak

Hi, Smithers. It's Mary here. Sorry I didn't know what all I needed to include.

He is a published author, has received awards for community service, marched with MLK in peace movement, and was influential when he was Executive Director of ACLU in Chicago. He lectured on urban opportunity. Contemporary of Andrew Greeley, and Helen Shiller.

I've got to go through his stuff to be specific on awards, dates, etc., and will get back with you, if that is OK.

Bye for now,

Mary RamseyBananacour (talk) 23:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry I took so long to get back to this... If you can get back to me on final stuff such as any awards, that would be awesome. Once I feel I have enough, I can get a rough draft of the article to you and then eventually onto the mainspace (where the articles are) on Wikipedia. Anything related more to ACLU? That would be pretty good to prevent it from getting into a CSD topic again. smithers - talk - sign! 01:36, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

Hello, Smithers! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. KV5 (Talk • Phils)

RfA Thanks

MrKIA11 (talk) 12:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Your user page

Your user page looks great! :) Thank you for the award; you didn't have to. ;) Cheers! --Meaghan ^{the vanilla twilight} 15:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I had too. (sorry?) smithers - talk - sign! 18:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Shot (JLS song)

I've noticed that you believe that this AFD could be considered for an upgrade to speedy deletion. I'm new here, so where do I have to go to apply for this? Thanks, WossOccurring (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, welcome to Wikipedia. I am not completely sure if it meets it, however if you want to try it, put {{db-song}} on the top of the article to tag it for an A9 speedy deletion. Make sure to let the author of the article know about it by using the notification code attached to the template on their talk page. That's really it. If it is deleted by a speedy deletion, the AfD discussion will be closed. Hope that helps! smithers - talk - sign! 23:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) WossOccurring (talk) 00:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Edits to User talk:71.182.240.34

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RE:thank you

Well its simeple, I like Coldplay. And seeing as I know as much about them as any obsesed person My name is Coldplay Expert. However its not the best choice for a name as people think that im a WP:SPA.--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 11:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places

Thanks for your contribution of articles on NRHP sites! Have you heard of the Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places? If you're interested in writing more NRHP articles, you'll find this webpage very useful: it generates a complete infobox in Wikipedia formatting for any NRHP property; if you have any questions, ask User:Elkman, who runs it. Finally, one note of caution — http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com is not the NRHP's official website, so it shouldn't necessarily be trusted. Thanks for your help! Nyttend (talk) 18:11, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

The NRHP's official website is the .gov one, isn't it? I will probably join the WikiProject, and look into the website. Thank you. Sorry I took a while to reply, I was creating an article ;-) smithers - talk - sign! 18:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Your RfA questions

I hate to be nitpicky, but if you're going to start asking your speedy-deletion-criteria questions at lots of RfAs someone is going to mention it sooner or later: "criteria" is plural; "criterion" is the singular. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that up; Actually I was always confused which is which and it looks like I was wrong. I probably won't be asking my CSD questions too often, only if the candidate mentions they will be working in the area in Question 1. Nonetheless, thanks for clearing that up. smithers - talk - sign! 17:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

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RfA Thanks

My RFA →→→

Dear Smithers7, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind vote on my request for adminship which failed with a final result of (40/19/12).

Thank you for your participation in my RfA which I withdrew after concerns of my knowledge of policy. Special thanks are owed to Coffee, who defended me throughout and whom I cannot thank enough for the nomination; to 2over0 for being supportive and helpful; to A Stop at Willoughby for the thorough, thoughtful and articulate support rationale; to IP69.226.103.13 for maintaining composure and for a pleasant interaction on my talk page and, last but not least, to Juliancolton who was good enough to close the RfA at my request and, frankly, because an editor whom I respect so much found the time to support me! If the need for more admins at the main page is still apparent in a few months, I may try again. Thank you all for a relatively drama-free RfA and for providing me with much material from which to learn from my mistakes. You're all welcome to drop by my talk page any time. God save the Queen Wiki! HJMitchell You rang? 20:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Help!

I have seen, on RfA's, people who move extensive discussions from a particular !vote to talk pages. How long should these discussions be before they are moved? Reply below please? smithers - talk - sign! 02:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no real "number". It's a judgement call. If the discussion is getting long enough that it is disrupting the readability of the rest of the comments, then it should be moved to the talk page. Additionally, if it is off-topic, it should be moved. Hope that helps. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 02:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Okey Dokey. Thanks again smithers - talk - sign! 03:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Answered questions MWOAP (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Benham Falls

Hello! Your submission of Benham Falls at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 ^talk 20:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I have added that into the article; is there anything else I need? Sorry about that... this is my first DYK nomination and I am still learning. smithers - talk - sign! 01:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Benham Falls

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Moving discussion from RfA

When you move a discussion from the RfA, even though everyone knows how to find the talk page, it's a courtesy to link to the discussion on the talk page in your note stating you moved it. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:03, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

My mistake. Sorry! Thanks for clearing that... smithers - talk 05:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

question

If I want to create a betting pool for the upcoming Super Bowl game on Febuary 7 (for something like a barnstar, not money), would it fail WP:MYSPACE? smithers - talk 01:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I would say so... Wikipedia not a webhost, but it's a debatable area. Leaving the tag on for other opinions.  fetchcomms☛ 01:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it would. Algebraist 01:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Okey Dokey. Thank you both! smithers - talk 01:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Riva on the Park

The article Riva on the Park has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No reliable sources found to establish notability of a fairly generic building.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. tedder (talk) 02:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I thought on Wikipedia that we were all supposed to collaborate to just make a good encyclopedia, expand it so questions would be answered by volunteers, and all learn something in the process. I guess this PROD does have reasoning, and since waiting for a deletion always stresses me out, and since you have the broom mop (fail), just delete the thing by {{db-g7}} please. Thanks. smithers - talk 05:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi- yep, I tried collaborating. I spent time looking for information. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have done the same. I'll leave it to see if anyone else finds something on it. tedder (talk) 05:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Everyking RFA

Hi, you had a question there that a bot put as unsigned by you, but it was an error since it was in the "candidate answer" section. I fixed it, but I just wanted to let you know to avoid any taboos about refactoring other people's comments and if I overstepped my bounds, I apologize. Doc Quintana (talk) 03:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

No harm taken. Thanks a lot, actually! Regards, smithers - talk 03:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! That's my first "Wikipedia award". I put it on my user page with pride! :) Doc Quintana (talk) 03:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Well kudos to you. You deserved it. smithers - talk 04:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Suite Vollard

Hello! Your submission of Suite Vollard at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! otherlleft 00:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

• Nope, not even the tiniest bit an admin! Reviewing of DYK nominations is one of the near-infinite activities editors can get involved in without needing administrator tools. I actually started reviewing nominations so I could learn to do a better job preparing articles for nomination myself. I gave this one the ol' .--otherlleft 02:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Well kudos to you. Thanks for the semi-comforting message on the request thingy. Regards, smithers - talk 02:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Oregon COTW v 3.0.2010ish

Greetings WikiProject Oregon team member. Time for the first new Collaboration Of The Week in 2010. Thank you to those who worked on Bill Schonely and archiving talk pages. For this week, we have Concordia University and the Berry Botanic Garden. Hopefully we can mine the garden’s website before it closes down. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Cheers and stuff. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK problem

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RFA

Re: Wickiup Reservoir

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DYK for Suite Vollard

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Just Out, COTW does well in new decade

Howdy WikiProject Oregon folks, time again for the latest installment of As the Collaboration Of The Week Turns. Last week was one of the more successful COTWs in recent memory as we really worked hard as a community to improve Concordia University and Berry Botanic Garden. Both are now at least C class articles and nicely illustrated (thanks to Tedder, Finetooth, and Ipoellet). Plus it really was a group effort as we had five different WPORE editors work on the garden and ditto with the school, with some overlap between the two.

Anyway, this week, we have by request the completely unrelated Just Out and Terrell Brandon. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. This message paid for by Fooians against COTW killing taxes. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wickiup Reservoir

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Mike Cline

Hi Smithers - just wanted to make sure you saw the comments from admin Jac1688 at the top of the discussion section which are related to your oppose. It may not change your overall !vote (because it does indicate lack of experience with CSD), but you can rest assured that all of his 4000 deleted edits were to his own articles so there were no missing notifications to other authors. (no need for taklback notes on my page if you reply here - I'm watching) Regards,  7  08:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

CSDs

Hey there,

Not surprisingly I've been looking over a number of editors' RfA criteria, and yours struck a chord with me. CSD might be one of the trickiest areas for an admin to work in, because you'd darn well better know those criteria cold or you could really bollix things up. Who do you most respect for his or her work in CSD? Regardless of how my RfA turns out I believe it's an area that one can never know enough about. Regards, --otherlleft 14:06, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry to say that I do not respect any specific user for any certain topic yet given that I have only been here for about three months; I can certainly understand your position however... CSD is a very weird subject. All I need from RfA candidates stating in question 1 that they are intending to work in CSD is very few "mistaggings" (never repeatedly) and the notification to the author. Sorry I can't answer your "who do you look up to?" question. smithers - talk 15:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough - but your position solidifies my desire to find a mentor in that subject. I like your custom talkback message, by the way!--otherlleft 17:25, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

If you need help, you can always use this template. It really helps me out, and it might help you a bit as well. smithers - talk 01:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Nicely done!--otherlleft 03:53, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Accounts

Hi...just wondering if you had a different username before this one.--MONGO 01:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

A family member had an account (was User:K50 Dude) that I have made some fifty edits with, and then retired, and lost the password when I felt like returning later, so I created this one personally, and not planning on letting anyone use it (and also, I am not planning on losing my passcode). Other then that, no. Why you ask? smithers - talk 02:06, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Your mastery of a number of wikipedia talents usually only gained after a longer editing history than you have led me to think you may have had a different username before this one. If that is confidential info then I apologize. I'm not a computer wiz...it took me forever to learn even the basics of this website.--MONGO 02:09, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Good... that means I haven't yet mastered being one of these yet. I shall take that as a compliment. That wasn't really confidential but do know that most of those edits weren't mine and this is a fresh start for me. smithers - talk 02:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Only previously banned editors aren't allowed a clean start...welcome back then.--MONGO 02:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Then I am not a wikitalent. Thanks for the welcome back? smithers - talk 02:27, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

RfA

I've anwered your question at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Connormah. Connormah (talk | contribs) 03:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, smithers. I don't think this RfA has even a chance of succeeding, but thanks for the support. Connormah (talk | contribs) 03:41, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't be that pessimistic; If at first you don't succeed, try try again. smithers - talk 03:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll definitely do that again sometime this year. Thanks again. Connormah (talk | contribs) 04:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.