Robertsky

RM

I noticed you closed this contention move without giving any sort explanation beside "Per consensus". How did you come to this conclusion? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 02:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@Vice regent, among those supported a move, it is more consistently stated that the proposed title is in consistency with other similar articles and neutrally worded as well. – robertsky (talk) 01:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you on consistency but disagree on neutrality. Here were the arguments made during the RM, and who made them:

• "Impact is more neutral than damage"
  • Agree (3): RoySmith, Schwede66, FortunateSons. Disagree (3): Vice regent, Levivich, John Cummings.
  • 3 vs 3 is not consensus. Did you discard the opposing arguments, and if so, why?
• "Impact is more consistent".
  • Agree (4): RoySmith, Gruznov, FortunateSons, Zanahry. Disagree: none.
• We should replace "Israel-Hamas war" with "Israeli invasion of the Gaza strip".
  • Agree (3-4): Vice regent, Lightburst, John Cummings, possibly Levivich. Disagree: none.
  • This looks like a clear consensus to me. Is there a reason you ignored this? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 08:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@Vice regent, urgh. I guess a previous massage didn't go through...

"Impact is more neutral than damage"

Nope, didn't discard the opposing views. Rather, I took into account of Lightburst's comment to decide the consensus. I note that you also had proposed for either manner.

"Impact is more consistent".

In agreement with this.

We should replace "Israel-Hamas war" with "Israeli invasion of the Gaza strip".

I have a different assessment on this despite the vote count. Changing to what you and the rest have asked here is a breakaway from the title used in the parent article, and rightly brought up by Gruznov, and also as to what RoySmith stated in their statement in "Suggested rename" that spawned the There's no need to say "in the Gaza Strip" in the title; that's where the war is, so it's obvious that's where the damage is. Also, this would be more in line with other existing titles. I have to note that the other existing titles that used "X invasion in Y" or "X something-ion of Y" is a result of the respective parent articles. – robertsky (talk) 01:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

"Nope, didn't discard the opposing views. Rather, I took into account of Lightburst's comment to decide the consensus. I note that you also had proposed for either manner."

Can you explain? I'm still not seeing your neutrality argument. If you didn't discard the !votes, then 3 or and 3 against doesn't make consensus.

"Changing to what you and the rest have asked here is a breakaway from the title used in the parent article"

But we have the parent article Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present) that is a more specific parent article than Israel-Hamas war. My !vote specifically pointed out that this article only discusses the environment in Gaza and not other places where the Israel-Hamas war has taken place.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 20:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Vice regent Hmm.. How about I reverse my close and relist the discussion? – robertsky (talk) 08:01, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 15:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

• Can you re-add the RM notice to the article and list at WP:RM? Or maybe tell me how to do it and I can do it myself?VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 22:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Vice regent oh yeah... I keep forgetting that the bot doesn't re-add the notice after some time. Will do so if it is not done yet. As for the WP:RM I will check it out, it should have been listed automatically. – robertsky (talk) 06:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Gteoswiki (03:07, 9 June 2024)

Hello. Is it possible to publish my article draft? I just finished it and I'm new to Wikipedia. --Gteoswiki (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Civilization VII

@Gteoswiki Your draft needs more content beyond the news that the development has started with a tentative launch date. See also: Wikipedia:Notability (video games), an essay advising on the notability of games, and also Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Video_games#Remakes,_expansions,_and_series_articles. – robertsky (talk) 01:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

thanks Gteoswiki (talk) 14:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Krishna Gurjar Riyana (07:27, 15 June 2024)

Hey brother how much time it takes so that everyone can see my edits --Krishna Gurjar Riyana (talk) 07:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Krishna Gurjar Riyana: Your edits should be visible immediately, unless it relates to page creation.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 21:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from SkittlezRS (00:49, 17 June 2024)

I just released a draft of a page, Rafael de Soto to put on the Spider (magazine) page, and I just wanted to ask, what are some things my page could be denied for? --SkittlezRS (talk) 00:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Rafael de Soto

@SkittlezRS it is as what the reviewer stated, it needs more reliable sources. Out of the four sources you used, only one is a maybe usable source, the pulpartists one. You will need to find other sources to back the article up. The standards of writing biographies on Wikipedia has risen over time. The type of sources you will need are third-party, independent, and reliable sources (WP:SOURCES). It needs not necessarily be online sources, offline will do as well, as long as it can be reasonably be verified by another editor. Another point to note is that, although it may not be necessary for biographies for long-dead persons, it is still best to have the citations done in line so that it is easy for others to verify (see WP:ILC). – robertsky (talk) 00:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

The problem with that is i checked a lot of websites and only that one had a biography about him. I'll check more, but I do not think I'll make much progress SkittlezRS (talk) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Byrnez (18:27, 18 June 2024)

Hello, Could you please explain to me how to change the xfx logo on the xfx wikipedia page because it is old? Thanks --Byrnez (talk) 18:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Byrnez you can upload the new logo first (see Wikipedia:Uploading images, through Wikipedia:File upload wizard), and then in the article, edit the infobox with the new logo file. If you are uncertain about the copyright status of the logo, upload as non-free file locally on English Wikipedia instead of uploading at Commons. – robertsky (talk) 20:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Robertsky Byrnez (talk) 18:57, 20 June 2024 (UTC)