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You reverted Hpunxkd at 11:22 and you reverted me just now at 20:06. Please self-revert. Sopher99 (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

In defense of accuracy

Syrian Resistance had been added to the sub-group section of the article, as a sub-group of Shabiha. When I created this page I designed it with the intention that the Main Conflict section would not include sub-groups. There simply isn't room. Please remove Syrian Resistance or make an argument on the talk page that either all 150 sub-groups should be included in the Main Conflict section, or that Syrian Resistance is not a sub-group of Shabiha (I did not make the edit that added Syrian Resistance to Shabiha), but I am trying to make the article accurate and consistent and it was necessary for that reason to remove Syrian Resistance from the main section. DylanLacey (talk) 02:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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Defense of legitimate editors

I see you have a barnstar on this subject. I am just getting started on it, would appreciate your opinion/comment/advice. Details in my user page. Thanks YamaPlos talk 04:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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Contest

Should i contest this? Pass a Method talk 14:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Why are you asking me this? Middayexpress (talk) 14:52, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I figured you might have good experience on this and i was looking for a second opinion. Pass a Method talk 14:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I see. What do your instincts tell you? Middayexpress (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

He has 14,000 hits on google so it seems okayish, so roughly 70% of my instinct says keep/contest. But since i'm not that good with biographies and you appear more experienced on that i figured I'd ask your opinion. Pass a Method talk 15:19, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

There actually appears to be only 4,970 hits on him; most either allude to one exhibition in 2012 or are mirrors or blogs/tumblrs. He's self-taught and that exhibition was also his first, so he's been at it professionally for a few months. Not sure whether that passes the WP:ONEEVENT notability threshold. Middayexpress (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Amaal Nuux

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Amaal Nuux for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Tco03displays (talk) 05:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines

This is the second time i've seen you moving a page by copy-pasting its content. The WP:MOVE page states in bold letters; Do not move or rename a page by copying/pasting its content. Don't do it again please. Consider this a warning. Pass a Method talk 19:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pass a Method. Actually, the real issue is your continuous naming of pages away from their WP:COMMONNAME. Prior examples including at Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud and Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed. The A'maal Nuux page is only the latest example since "A'maal Nuux" is at least twice as common a name for her as "Amaal Nuux". This was explained in detail here as well. Per the commonname policy, that's therefore where the page should have been to begin with. In future, please try and adhere to website policy. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I actually agree with the page move. I merely disagree with the method you chose to move the page. When something is bolded out on a guidelines, it is usually to add emphasis because of its importance. Pass a Method talk 19:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I must disagree with you about some page moves ([1]), "createdness of the Quran" and "Quranic createdness" are two entirely different concepts. Does "accuracy of mathematics" and "mathematical accuracy" have similar meanings?Kiatdd (talk) 19:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

They are probably interchangeable, but the first title had a misspelling with a missplaced comma. Pass a Method talk 19:56, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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Carlton alumni

Thanks. But there's nothing on Sulekha Ali's wiki article to indicate she attended Carlton. Richard Apple (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Format

5000 m on Mo's personal best table is badly formatted. Maybe you can fix it please? Thanks Pass a Method talk 13:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 13:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Zeila & Lughaya State

Hi Pass a Method. May I ask why you reverted here? You do realize that the only proof of the existence of such an entity is a dead website [2], right? Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you did not mention that in the edit summary Pass a Method talk 17:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I wrote "re-direct project to main". If you didn't understand what that meant, all you had to do was ask. Your rationale that "they are not the same thing" is also inaccurate, btw. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Why move Nuclear program of Iran to Nuclear power in Iran

You recently changed the name of this article in a way that I think is misleading. Iran's nuclear program is much broader than nuclear power, and one of the still unanswered questions is whether it is genuinely intended for peaceful nuclear power purposes. This name change was discussed months ago and the consensus was against. I'm not aware that there was a recent discussion. Please explain. NPguy (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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WP:SYNTHESIS

But I wasn't combining multiple sources. I was citing just one source. EkoGraf (talk) 16:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, then it would count as WP:ORPass a Method talk 16:50, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

o.O? How is it OR if the guy cited in the source says 12-20 fighters (which is very specific) die each month since he was there which is April. EkoGraf (talk) 16:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but thats not what you added to the article. You added a total number. You decided for yourself that we should count from April onwards. Thats clear original research. Pass a Method talk 17:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it that way. I wrote in my own words (which Wikipedia requests from us) what in essence that guy said. He said 12-20 of their fighters die each month and that they have been involved since at least April. His sentence by all intents and purposes equals (12-20 times 8 months which is 96-160). You got editors writing in these many different war articles on different incidents. And when they write about a day in a conflict where the one source says, for example, 7 soldiers died in one incident and another 3 died in another incident during the same day, editors sum it up and say 10 died during the day. Its simple logic. Yes, it would be OR if we combined multiple different sources or statements from different individuals for one conclusion and that's something I too don't approve of. But, we are using here one statement, from one individual, from one news source. No multiple statements, no multiple individuals, no multiple news sources. EkoGraf (talk) 19:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Tell me this, if you were writing an article about a two-day battle, and you got a source, a same source, that says that during the battle 40 people died the first day and 50 died during the second day, wouldn't you put in the battle's infobox that 90 died during the battle? EkoGraf (talk) 19:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

First, the article does not state all were Iraqi. Second, the source does not make any calculations. No body counts. No hospital records. Its a figure that he came up with in the middle of a conversation. If thats not bad enough, you use that figure, and make add up how many months he was there and get a total? Give me a fucking break. Pass a Method talk 19:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

First, reply to your number 1 assertion. You are incorrect. The guy clearly states they were all Iraqi. Quoting the source for you. He reckons between 12 and 20 Iraqi volunteers are being killed in Syria every month. So, you must have missed that part. Second, an estimate of 12-20 dead per month is a body count in itself. Third, why would we need hospital records? Do we request hospital records for victims of an earthquake, or do we simply cite the figure that is given in a source? Fourth, since you cited Wikipedia:No original research for me, I will cite something else for you. Wikipedia:No original research#Routine calculations. Quoting: Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is obvious, correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Fifth, please refrain from harsh language per Wikipedia:Civility. EkoGraf (talk) 19:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

So, I have just one question now for you...Is 96-160 an obvious, correct and meaningful reflection of 12-20 dead per month for eight months? EkoGraf (talk) 19:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You are forming a conclusion out of minimum words. Its possible that In May most volunteers were non-Iraqi. Its also possible that more people were dieing from June onwards compared to the previous months. Its also possible that he's giving the highest estimates from during the fiercest fighting and ignoring death toll figures from during the stalemate. its very vague language. Such arbitraqry numbers of "per month" are obviously contrary from facts on the ground which show a huge variation in fighting each month. Pass a Method talk 19:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Also the amount of fighting has ranged from heavy to zero at Zaynab sayyida, so a month by month calculus makes no sense in the first place Pass a Method talk 19:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Old age request

I am writing you because you made recent edits to Old age. Please be so kind as to review my draft of extensive editing at User:Vejlefjord/Old age - draft and my explanation on its Talk Page. What do you think about its possible use? I am a novice in Wikipedia procedures. Thanks. Vejlefjord (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it seems fine. Although i've only edited that page a couple of times. Pass a Method talk 00:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply and encouragement. What should I now do? Replace the present Old age article with the User:Vejlefjord/Old age - draft revision? Please advise. Vejlefjord (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

No. Its better to manually make the changes without all-out replacement. You can do it one by one if you feel thats best. Pass a Method talk 17:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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Guitar

Do not, do not identify PEOPLE by gender unless you are writing an article in which gender is a significant issue.

• Human biology
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In these instances, you may need to draw distinction between male and female.

But do not label a picture FEMALE guitarist in an article about Guitars.

I do not know who you are or where you come from, but I do know that your sexist attitudes are forty years behind the times.

I do not believe that if it had been Eric Clapton playing that guitar, you would have captioned it MALE guitarist.

The female has a name. Her name is on the file. It is Sinéad O’Connor.

This type of sexist labelling, as if a female needs to be identified as such, should be a thing of the past. Would you write "Black man playing a guitar"? "Homosexual playing a guitar"? "Amputee playing a guitar"? "Geriatric playing a guitar"? "Motor mechanic playing a guitar"? Tax agent playing a guitar"? "Female" is just as irrelevant! A guitarist is a guitarist.

Amandajm (talk) 12:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Amanda, I'm not sure it is really meant that way or even intended to be even slightly offensive. On youtube for instance it's common to see "female guitarist", as it's typically a male-dominated instrument. A lot of girls/women even upload videos of themselves and label it "female guitarist". Even Guthrie Govan has said "let's face it, we tend to be men don't we" when asked who attends his clinics. It is quite rare to see a professional female guitarist in comparison to something like a pianist or violinist and I don't mean just a girl who sings and happens to strum a guitar in a band. You wouldn't get "female pianist" on the otherhand. So I can at least understand the thinking behind labeling it as such. For somebody as famous as Sinead though it does seem a strange choice to label her a "female guitarist" as if she's some unknown amateur musician. Personally I'd rather add a photo of a famous accomplished female professional guitarist like Ana Vidovic who is utterly beautiful in looks and playing and label it "Ana Vidovic" rather than Sinead who is more a singer accompanying her singing with some chords on a guitar or some amateur female player.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

I accept that it wasn't intended to be offensive.

I comprehend the points that you are making. But the fact that the industry is male-dominated, (or even the fact that males might in general be better suited for a particular profession) is not a good enough reason. That excuse is used for labelling "female politician", "female doctor", "female bishop", "female police officer" and conversely "male nurse".

It is simply typical of the deplorable lack of awareness of common social issues and social ignorance that affects an increasing number of individuals at the present time.

Gender equality is a concept that is losing ground, rather than gaining it.

From about 1975-2000 few intelligent, thinking, men (in the Western world) would have labelled a person as "female" unless the context was gender relevant. It simply wasn't acceptable. It was not "politically correct".

What we have now is a distressing lack of social awareness.

And with that lack of social awareness, we have a spiralling degree of social hostility, also affecting issues other than gender. In Britain it ranges from children tormenting other children to death at school, to the serious underrepresentation of women in Parliament. In Australia, the largest Anglican diocese in the world still teaches women that they are subject to their husbands and may not teach males over the age of 18, and nobody is even bothering to fight it anymore.

If my statement on this issue alerts yet another individual to the problems of gender stereotyping, then something has been achieved.

Why are females in such a minority on Wikipedia, do you think? Why do they so often chose names that disguise their identities?

I identify as Amanda. J. M.

I am one of the 50% (or so) of the world's population who suffer gender discrimination just for being female, and I don't like it.

Labelling a particular guitarist as "female" is not offensive to the majority of Wikipedia writers. It is personally offensive to those female individuals who have sufficient what-it-takes to remain here.

Dr. Blofeld, I agree with the point that you make about the choice of the individual represented. The article calls for images of the world's greatest guitarists (regardless of gender).

It is an interesting point that the historic illustration, the Vermeer, shows a woman playing a guitar. Small guitars were seen as a suitable instrument for women.

Guitars became a very popular choice of instrument for fashionable women in London in the 18th century, to the detriment of the harpsichord manufacturers. This was combatted by the harpsichord manufacturers getting a shipment of cheap guitars from Spain and handing them out to the street-sellers at Covent Garden. When the flower sellers and fish sellers were all playing guitars, they rapidly ceased to be "fashionable" and women went back to their keyboards.

Anyway, I think I'll play Eric Clapton loud enough to get my son out of bed, (since it's nearly midday) and maybe that will sooth my ruffled feelings.

Amandajm (talk) 00:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Two of the very best and inspiring guitarists are female, Ana Vidovic and Mimi Fox who is an incredible jazz guitarist and educator who I've learned much from. If you ask most people to name a female guitarist though I bet they'd be hard pushed to think of one and would probably saw something like Katie Melua, Susanna Hoffs or Courtney Love and none of them are really lead guitarists as such in the Clapton sense of the word... What stood out more here though was that Sinead o Connor was being labelled a "female guitarist" rather than by her name Sinead o Connor which probably stood out more than if it had been an anon unknown! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Dec. 13

Please stop adding unsourced content. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. EzPz (talk) 00:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Pass a method, you regularly add content to pages from fringe sources or no sources. Please seriously consider taking a second look at your edits prior to making them, thank you. EzPz (talk) 00:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

He is stalking me too

You know exactly who i mean. Funny, right? -- Kendrick7^talk 06:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

This means that 3 people have accused him of stalking in the space of 3 days. And no, its not funny; if I catch him stalking me one more time i'm gonna do a backflip, maintain a handstand and punch myself in the belly to the point where i'm bruised. Pass a Method talk 10:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow reply. Eventually cliques of editors who are just about stirring up anti-intellectualism won't last due to our fundamental tenant of WP:5P. There would otherwise be no explanation as to why I am still here. :-)

I don't know anything about your editing, and I guess you managed to get yourself topic banned for 6 months about theology. When you come back I will forgive you and welcome you with open arms! -- Kendrick7^talk 22:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Rob Ford

Hi, just a point about writing lead sections of articles. Do not add the info about the 2006 council opponent in the lead section. The lead section is a summary of the article, so we don't put in details. I've added the info about the 2006 election vs. Cadigia Ali in the political career section. Cheers! Alaney2k (talk) 18:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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Christianity

An editor has asked for full edit protection for this article, in response to the recent back-and-forth between yourself and User:StAnselm. I am inclined to protect the page accordingly, but would prefer that the two of you agree not to edit the page for a time, and instead work out your differences on the talk page, in a draft, or through an RfC. Are you willing to do this? bd2412 T 20:00, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll probably file an RfC Pass a Method talk 20:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

That is a reasonable course of action. Please note that the article is now at the state that it was before the dispute began, and should stay that way until it is settled. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Resurrecting old edit wars

I have no idea why you are resurrecting old edit wars at Tree of life (biblical), Lot (biblical person), etc. I do wish you'd discuss things on the talk page first. And there is no reason to get into a move war either - why don't you follow Wikipedia:Requested moves? StAnselm (talk) 23:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - this has gone too far. I'm not taking sides, just trying to stop this. Dougweller (talk) 21:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

We haven't crossed paths in a long while, so I thought I would drop by and say hello. I see you have made some new friends. You might want to check out the essay WP:POV railroad. Cheers! Ignocrates (talk) 16:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back to wikipedia. I admit it has been a long time. Thank you for remembering me! Pass a Method talk 18:09, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Topic ban

I have closed the ANI discussion as supporting a topic ban against you for 6 months in all religious articles. If you have any questions about what constitutes a religious article, or a religious section of a non-religious article, you can ask myself or another uninvolved administrator.--v/r - TP 22:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

A new article for you!

I have boldly created a new article: Tree of life (Quran). Edit and change it as much as you want - I don't plan to do so. I would also encourage you to create an "Islam" section in the main article, Tree of life. StAnselm (talk) 20:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Fyi

There are many other diaspora pages with red links. Pass a Method talk 19:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Good to know. By the way, thanks here. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Pass a Method talk 19:42, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Paragraph

"Wir sind immer noch nicht gut organisiert, und unsere rund tausend Mitglieder haben noch kaum militärisches Training erhalten" In english "We are not yet good enough organized, and our thousand members did not get enough military training" http://www.20min.ch/ausland/news/story/19238957 Elvis214 (talk) 02:40, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Pass a Method talk 10:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Redl

Hi. Please see WP:RED and WP:NLIST. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Please note that the section is for folks that are part of the media world, not random people featured in the media. Also, per WP:NLIST ("entries must have the same importance to the subject as would be required for the entry to be included in the text of the article according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines (including WP:Trivia sections)"). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Extent of topic ban

I can see that there is enough doubt about whether an article about a film relating to a religion counts as a "religious article" for there to be room for wikilawyering. However, it was made perfectly clear to you that if there was any doubt you should consult a non-involved admin. The articles Muhammad: The Last Prophet and Mohammad, Messenger of God are articles that deal with religious topics, and you must have been aware of that fact. I cannot know what you had in mind when you edited those articles, but it looks remarkably like deliberate skirting round the edge of your topic ban to test how much you could get away with. If I see any editing like that again, I may block you from editing for violation of your topic ban. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I was somewhat unsure of the scope of wikiprojects in topic bans, but i will try to avoid such edits in the future. Thanks. Pass a Method talk 14:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Inbreeders

Category:Inbreeders, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 11:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Keira Knightley. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. StAnselm (talk) 12:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

StAnselm, your editing in this matter has been needlessly hostile and disrespectful. You could have avoided all of this by politely removing the content as too trivial for inclusion as presented. Other editors had no problem doing that and as far as I can tell have no issue trying to be collegial. Perhaps a different approach would be less disruptive in the future. Sportfan5000 (talk) 04:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

No, you are seriously misunderstanding Wikipedia's policy regarding BLPs. Unreferenced controversial information must be removed immediately. If Pass a Method continues to add such material, and edit war in doing so, I will certainly report him. StAnselm (talk) 04:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

And you are showing incredibly poor judgement. Please elaborate how referencing someone's best friend on their biography is now considered "controversial information." Shouldn't we save the apoplectic response for actual controversial material? I think we should. Sportfan5000 (talk) 04:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Sportfan5000, see [3] for an example of how this kind of info is manipulated. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a long history of pr reps using the site but I feel good content will be kept in the long run. I don't dispute the the information could be trivial in some cases. I found removing it on the basis alone that it was unsourced was disrespectful when the content was easily source-able. I appreciate how you handled the situation. If others want to delve into how the relationships impacted the subjects then so be it. Sportfan5000 (talk) 04:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Of course it's controversial. If it isn't to be found in reliable sources, then it's controversial. Controversial information is anything that is likely to be untrue, or just someone's opinion. The key policy is Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons: "Contentious material about living persons... that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion" (emphasis original). And that's what I did. Notice those words carefully - whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable. StAnselm (talk) 04:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

We'll have to disagree on what is or is not controversial at this point. I think I've heard your opinion on this matter. I choose to follow reliable sources, and try to work with other editors. Sportfan5000 (talk) 04:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I was about to post a comment about another policy to StAnselm, but since everything i tell him goes in one ear and out the other i might as well just forget it. Pass a Method talk 04:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Tyrese Update

You added that Tyrese was a member of Phi Beta Sigma. That is false. Where did you find that. I am a National officer with access to membership records and he is not a member.

Occasio (talk) 04:17, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

You've mistaken me with someone else. Pass a Method talk 04:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

thoughts on Abrahamic religions

a recent editor is making fairly significant changes on consensus balances. I want to avoid an edit war but think the changes are out of balance and sometimes misleading. Care to contribute? --Smkolins (talk) 03:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

See here Pass a Method talk 04:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Whoops. I see some other arguments raged. Apologies if it caused discomfort to bring the general topic up in another context. --Smkolins (talk) 12:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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