User:P64/Baseball/roster

How should we present baseball team roster data either in articles or for editorial reference? This is bound to be unwieldy. Tables --both wiki-tables and handmade tables, see examples below-- are painful to compose or even to tweak by deleting a column (deleting a row is easy). Space is cramped. What is to be done?

Following some discussion of alternatives, using the Morrisania Unions and Rockford Forest Citys for illustration, the "Roll Call" presents some roster data for 15 of the 17 clubs that fielded pro teams in 1869 or 1870.

For some of the teams uppercase cell entries indicate participation in more than 60% of tabulated games, lowercase 40-60% of games, and parentheses less than 40% of games (incompletely implemented).

Known players. Commonly the "known" players on NABBP teams are those listed by Marshall Wright, The National Association of Base Ball Players, 1857-1870 (McFarland 2002). For later seasons he lists everyone who played five or more games on record — his record, compiled from contemporary game or season reports that he was able to locate.

Some teams and players are known from William J. Ryczek, When Johnny Came Sliding Home: The Post-Civil War Baseball Boom, 1865-1870 (McFarland 1998), or from two volumes of short biographies by SABR

Morrisania, Union

(That is, the Union baseball club of Morrisania, Bronx.

Category:Morrisania Unions players includes all known Wikipedia player pages for team members.

Category talk:Morrisania Unions players provides some report on Wikipedia coverage.

For some Unions of Morrisania team and player data see

Marshall Wright, pages 69 79 89 99 114 147 192 272 302 (entries for 1862-1870)

The Union base ball club of Morrisania, New York was one original and persistent member of the NABBP. The club did not join the new all-professional National Association in 1871 or thereafter so its player are "major leaguers" only by their play for other clubs after 1870. This table gives the teams and numbers of games for every player's first two major league stints, insofar as those data fit conveniently in the '1871' and '1872' columns. If the Unions fielded an amateur team in 1871 with some of its old players, that is not indicated in the righthand columns of this table. Rather, the right-hand columns of this table report the major league experience

The 1868 team

This team was champion until October 5, its second defeat to Atlantic. (Neither team has a good case to be the strongest and Mutual soon beat Atlantic twice.) These ten men played at least twenty games and no other played even five games(#). That is unusual in the Marshall Wright rosters. There were other players, several of them if it is true that none played five. Indeed, Wright gives 20 and 21 games for Bellan and Reynolds, so they fall short of one every day player. Perhaps one layed on the long western tour; one afterward. I have marked both of them as substitutes or part-timers.

1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870	Name	1871	1872	later
		x	x	x	CF	x	x	Henry Austin			1873
					(2b,rf)			Steve Bellan	tro 29	tro 23	to 1873
x	x	x	x	x	C		x	Dave Birdsall	bos 29	bos 16	to 1873
			x	x	1B	x		John Goldie			-
			x	x	2B			Al Martin		atl 4	to 1875
		x	x	x	P		x	Charlie Pabor	cle 29	cle 21	to 1875
					(rf)	x	x	Reynolds			-
					3B,2B		x	Ed Shelley			-
		x	x	x	LF,1B	x		George Smith			-
			x		SS,2B			George Wright	bos 16	bos 48	to 1882

chief source 1863-1870: Marshall Wright, pages 79 89 99 114 147 192 272 302 (entries for eight teams)

This table concerns the Ten with the Union club in eight columns 1863 to 1870, and concerns their league careers in three columns 1871 to "later" than 1872. Marshall Wright lists some Union players for every season 1857 to 1870 except 1861. By coincidence for this team, Birdsall's 1863 arrivale matches Wright's 1862/1863 matches between listing all players and listing all five-game players, so his rosters imply that none of these men played for the Unions before this table begins in 1863. Within the table there is no such implication; the blank cells mean "fewer than five games" (usually five) rather than "did not play".

How much more information may be added without impairing readability of this table? The extent of the left-hand side, 10 rows with 8 columns left of the player names (NABBP), is derived from focus on the 1868 team alone and reference to Wright alone.

Regular players may be distinguished from substitute and part-season players by a code such as upper and lower case, bold and plain face, etc. For the 1868 season only, the first table uses both uppercase for the regulars and parentheses for the others, two devices. The next table extends those devices to the span 1863-70 (still using only the 'x').

1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870	Name	1871	1872	later
		(x)	x	x	CF	x	x	Henry Austin			1873
					(2b,rf)			Steve Bellan	tro 29	tro 23	to 1873
x	x	x	x	x	C		x	Dave Birdsall	bos 29	bos 16	to 1873
			(x)	x	1B	(x)		John Goldie			-
			x	x	2B			Al Martin		atl 4	to 1875
		x	x	x	P		x	Charlie Pabor	cle 29	cle 21	to 1875
					(rf)	(x)	(x)	Reynolds			-
					3B,2B		x	Ed Shelley			-
		x	x	x	LF,1B	(x)		George Smith			-
			(x)		SS,2B			George Wright	bos 16	bos 48	to 1882

The four substitutes or part-timers marked in 1869-70 played 40-56% of the maximum games reported for any of their teammates; three marked in 1865-66 played 18-33% of maximum games.

Alternatively the next table simply gives the number of Union games played rather than 'x' and the other devices. (Bold numbers lead the entire Association as in modern baseball encyclopedias.)

1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870	Name	1871	1872	later
7	7	21	28	29	44	10	27	(team leader)
		7	21	28	CF	10	24	Henry Austin			1873
					(2b,rf)			Steve Bellan	tro 29	tro 23	to 1873
7	7	21	25	28	C		18	Dave Birdsall	bos 29	bos 16	to 1873
			5	19	1B	5		John Goldie			-
			28	28	2B			Al Martin		atl 4	to 1875
		14	28	28	P		27	Charlie Pabor	cle 29	cle 21	to 1875
					(rf)	4	15	Reynolds			-
					3B,2B		24	Ed Shelley			-
		21	28	29	LF,1B	4		George Smith			-
			9		SS,2B			George Wright	bos 16	bos 48	to 1882

That might work together with the abbreviation for one fielding position. Combined with two or more fielding positions, as here for the 1868 season, the number of games would be too much clutter.

The 1866-68 and 1870 teams

This version differs by including players on the 1866 and 1867 teams as well as 1868 and 1870. It includes 1862 in order to cover the known tenure for two newly included players. It more severely abbreviates the fielding positions for some men who played more than two.

For 1866 to 1870 Wright names 12, 12, 10, 11, and 12 men who played five or more games. This table covers all of the 5-game men for the 1866-68 heyday and for 1870, with their roles in those seasons. It covers earlier seasons and 1869 only by noting the presence of 1866-68 or 1870 men. The club must have compensated some players before 1869, when the Association first permitted fully professional clubs, but it did not "go pro" in 1869 and consequently fielded a weak team.

1862	1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870	Name	1871	1872	later
X	X	X	(x)	3b	(of)				William Abrams			-
				LF,C,S	OF,SS				Albro Aiken			-
			(x)	CF	CF	CF	X	CF	Henry Austin			1873
								SS	John Bass	cle 22	atl 2	to 1877
					RF				Tommy Beals	oly 10	oly 9	to 1880
						2b,rf			Steve Bellan	tro 29	tro 23	to 1873
								(1b)	Charlie Bierman	fw 1		-
	X	X	X	C	C	C		C	Dave Birdsall	bos 29	bos 16	to 1873
								(1b)	Brown			-
								LF	Al Gedney		tro 9	to 1875
				(1b)	1B	1B	x		John Goldie			-
X	X	X	X	SS,OF					Bernard Hannegan			-
								2B	Dick Higham	mut 21	bal 50	to 1880
								(3b)	Jim Holdsworth		cle 22	to 1884
		X	X	rf,3b	(of)				W.F. Hudson			-
								OF,3B	John Kenney		atl 5	-
			X	OF,2,3	3B				Dan Ketchum			-
				2B,OF	2B	2B			Al Martin		atl 4	to 1875
					(p)				Norton			-
			X	P	P	P		P	Charlie Pabor	cle 29	cle 21	to 1875
						rf	x	of	Reynolds			-
						3B,2B		3B	Ed Shelley			-
			X	1B,OF	SS,L,C,1	LF,1B	x		George Smith			-
				(ss,c)		SS,2B			George Wright	bos 16	bos 48	to 1882

Maybe the first column should be labeled 'earlier' or 'prior' or 'prev' rather than '1862'. Abrams and Hannegan are on the 1859 and 1860 rosters. Wright provides no data for 1861.

For the 1866 and 1867 teams Wright gives three or four fielding positions for some players. Here I have simply abbreviated the positions more severely, using a single character for all but the first one. The one entry for four positions ('SS,L,C,1' in 1867) remains too long, given the timespan to cover for the Unions. It needs severe abbreviation of the first position ('S,L,C,1') or truncation ('SS,L,C') or a different approach ('SS,etc' or 'SS,L,&').

The single letter 'C' always means catcher; the one-letter abbreviation for "centerfield" is 'M' (middle). Unfortunately considering the severe purpose, 'm' is a wide character. The severe abbreviation for "leftfield" is 'L', of course. Unfortunately for meaningful use of upper and lower case, 'l' is similar to '1' for firstbase.

For major teams 1865-70, Bill Ryczek names regular players by fielding position. He distinguishes three outfield positions and he is my only source for left, center, and right specifications. For some players the roles listed by Wright and Ryczek differ in ways more important than one or three outfield positions and multiple or single positions. Generally I have not investigated and here I have not noted the disagreements. 'OF' rather than a particular outfield position does mean that Ryczek does not name the player at any outfield position.

annual numbers

These numerical data cover the entire NABBP history 1857 to 1870.

For this club it appears that 1862/1863 marks the break between listing all known players and listing all who played at least about five games. That makes a big difference. After 1862 the number of listed players (row "all") is first very low, because the record barely covers five games, and it never exceeds twelve. The first 1857 roster names 15 men for only five games played.

year	1857	1858 	1859	1860	1861	1862	1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870	
teamG	5	2	5	10	4	10	6	7	23	28	29	43	15	39 (25 pro)

maxG	4	2	4	10		5	7	7	21	28	29	44	10	27
minG	1	1	1	1		1	5	5	7	5	6	20	4	7

'''count data'''
all	15	10	10	19	none	14	6	7	11	12	12	10	11	12
5+/Reg				8		5	6	7	8	8	9	8	7	8
2-4/S	9	8	9	5		7			3	4	3	2	4	4
1game	6	2	1	6		2			

sum	35	18	35	86		45	39	43	(-16)	(-7)	(-6)	(-34)	67	(-15)

For 1857 the sum of player games is 35 evidently representing 4 matches (not three because the players' maximum is four games). If the data are valid then the team played at least once with eight men.

Rockford, Forest City

(That is, the Forest City baseball club of Rockford, Illinois.)

See also a standard table featuring the 1870 team, in the roll call below.

Here are some alternative presentations of roster data using the 1866-1870 Rockford Forest Citys for example. The club did join the pro NA for 1871, including several of these players (marked * in version two), and that was the only major league experience for some of them.

The first two tables cover only the major leaguers who played for the Rockford Forest Citys before 1871.

• 1870 (pro) - Bob Addy, Al Barker, Ross Barnes, Fred Cone, Tom Foley, Scott Hastings, Joe Simmons, Al Spalding, Gat Stires
• 1869 - Addy, Barker, Barnes, Cone, Foley, Hastings, Spalding, Stires
• 1868 - Addy, Barker, Barnes, Cone, Spalding, Stires
• 1867 (nonmember) - Addy, Barnes, Spalding
• 1866 (nonmember) - Addy, Barnes, Spalding

66 67 68 69 70 ** Bob Addy

-- -- 68 69 70 ** Al Barker

66 67 68 69 70 -- Ross Barnes

-- -- 68 69 70 -- Fred Cone

-- -- -- 69 70 -- Tom Foley

-- -- -- 69 70 ** Scott Hastings

-- -- -- -- 70 -- Joe Simmons

66 67 68 69 70 -- Al Spalding

-- -- 68 69 70 ** Gat Stires

Neither one should win any awards but either one may be useful.

The third one covers the 1868-1870 teams by fielding position (combining two sources) and provides 1866-1867 sightings from three biographies.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870
				(pro)
66	67	2B	C	2B	[[Bob Addy]]
		LF 	OF	of	[[Al Barker]]
66	67 	SS	SS	SS	[[Ross Barnes]]
		1B	1B	LF	[[Fred Cone]]
 			3B	3B	[[Tom Foley]]
			2B	C	[[Scott Hastings]]
		 		CF	[[Joe Simmons]]
66	67 	P	P	P	[[Al Spalding]]
 		RF	of	RF	[[Gat Stires]]

				lf,1b	Barstow
				1B	Joe Doyle
			CF		Chesney:Chaney
			of		Sawyer
			of:LF		Trumbull
		3B:CF	RF		Ballard Osborne
		of			Waxham
		C			George King

Uppercase denotes a regular player. Comma is part of a complex listing from one source. Colon separates data from two sources, for selected differences only.

Roll Call

Initially this "roll call" covers the professional teams of 1869 or 1870 except Tri-Mountain of Boston and Riverside of Portsmouth OH.

The tables feature one or more team-seasons by covering everyone who played (usually five or more games) during any of those seasons, and by giving their fielding positions for those seasons.

Baltimore, Maryland

(That is, the Maryland baseball club of Baltimore.)

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams. This club joined the pro NA for 1873 so there is a column dedicated to that season. Unfortunately no roster data has been compiled for 1871 and 1872 (or 1867, the club's first season as NABBP member).

1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	1873	later
(x)	OF	(cf)	Sam Armstrong	?
		(2b)	Charlie Bierman	ftw 1
	(3b)		Buck
		3B	Tom Carey	ftw 19	bal 42	bal 56	to 1879
	(p)		Elias Cope
		1B	Tom Forker
(x)	2B,C	SS	Wally Goldsmith	ftw 19	oly 9	1	to 1875
x	OF	RF	Mike Hooper			3
x	(ss)		Keerle
		(3b,2b)	Joe Kernan			2
	C	C	Bill Lennon	ftw 12	nat 11	5
x	(2b,3,1)		Lucas
	(p)	P	Bobby Mathews	ftw 19	bal 50	ny 52	to 1887
(x)	OF	LF	Ed Mincher	ftw 9	nat 11
	(1b)		Reese
	SS		Frank Selman	ftw 14	oly 9	1	to 1875
x	(1b)		Wilson
x	OF	OF	Tully Worthington

Sam Armstrong may be Bob Armstrong who played 12 games in the outfield at Fort Wayne in 1871. First, that club (Kekionga of Fort Wayne) almost hired a nine from Maryland. Second, Bob Armstrong was born in Baltimore.

Brooklyn, Atlantic

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later	Atlantic '73-75
			(of)		Oliver Brown		4	to 1875	0 , 0 , 3
X		X	LF	LF	Jack Chapman			to 1876	0 , 53
X	X	X	CF		Fred Crane			to 1875	0 , 0 , 21
X	X	X	C	C	Bob Ferguson	ny 33	atl 37	to 1884	51, 56
				CF	George Hall	oly 32	bal 53	to 1877
			(of)		Charles Hunt
	X	(x)	(3b)		John Kenney		5
x	X	X	RF	RF	Dan McDonald		15
				(of,c)	Munn
X	X	X	SS	SS	Dickey Pearce	ny 33	ny 44	to 1877	55, 56
			2B	2B	Lip Pike	tro 28	bal 56	to 1887
(x)		(x)	(p)		Tom Pratt	ath 1
(x)	X	X	3B	3B	Charlie Smith	ny 14
X	X	X	1B	1B	Joe Start	ny 33	ny 55	to 1886
x	X	X	P	P	George Zettlein	chi 28	tro 25	to 1876

(Other major leaguers before 1869: Charley Mills)

The 1864 and 1865 teams.

earlier	1862	1863	1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		later
	X	X	OF,P,C,S,3	LF,P,3B	X		X	X	X	Jack Chapman	to 1876
	X	X	2B,OF	2B,3B	X	X	X	X		Fred Crane	to 1875
		x	SS,2B,3B	SS,OF,2B,3B	X	x				John Galvin
1857-	X	X	OF	CF						Peter O'Brien
1859-	X	X	(of,ss)							Joe Oliver
1856-	X	X	C,SS,OF	C,SS,2B	X	X	X	X	X	Dickey Pearce	to 1877
		X	P,SS	P	(x)		(x)	(x)		Tom Pratt	to 1871
1858-	X	X	3B,SS,2B	3B	(x)	x	X	X	X	Charlie Smith	to 1871
	(x)	(x)	OF	RF	X					Sid Smith
		(x)	(ss,1b)							Joe Sprague
	X	X	1B,3B	1B	X	X	X	X	X	Joe Start	to 1886

Brooklyn, Eckford

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
	(x)	X	1B	1B	Andy Allison	@	24
				(2b)	Bill Allison	@	5
			(ss)		S. Carlton
				LF	Coniglan
	(x)	(x)	(c)		Courtney
			(ss)	(ss)	Tom Devyr
				3B,SS	Ed Duffy	chi 26
			CF		John Eggler
		X	OF,C,S		Charley Hodes	chi 28	tro 13	to 1874
				lf	Charles Hunt
				OF,2B	Dick Hunt		11
			c	(c)	Nat Jewett		2
				(of)	Lynch
	x	(x)		(2b)	Martin Malone		5
		X	P		Phonney Martin	@	18 *	to 1873
				P	Joe McDermott	ftw 2	7
	X	X	3B		Candy Nelson	@	18 *	to 1890
	X	X	2B,CF		Tom Patterson	ny 32	12	to 1875
			SS,RF		Ed Pinkham	chi 24
				(c)	George Price
				(ss)	Reach
				C,SS	Jim Snyder		26
x	x			CF	Josh Snyder		9
			LF		Fred Treacey	chi 25	ath 47	to 1876
(x)	(x)	x	2b		Jimmy Wood	chi 28	7 *	to 1873

(Other major leaguers before 1869: Eggler, Charley Mills, Reach, Zettlein)

@ Various sources places four of the Eckford veterans on the independent professional team of 1871; all played for Eckford in 1872 also. Six others were not five-game veterans of the NABBP team: Chapman, Gedney, Hicks, Holdsworth, Shelly, and Swandell. Except Shelly they are also major leaguers.)

• Three of the Eckford veterans who played for the club again during 1872 returned in mid-season after the Troy Haymakers disbanded. Otherwise these tables provide information on the players first league teams in each season after 1870.

This table features the 1862 and 1863 teams (champions). For 1861 Marshall Wright lists one-game players but the minimum here is two games. minimum two games

1861	1862	1863	1864		later
x	C,OF	C		Waddy Beach
x	1b			Campbell
	SS,3B	ss		Tom Devyr
		3B		Ed Duffy	to 1871
	of			Dan Ketchum
X	OF,C	OF	X	Harry Manolt
(x)	3B,P		X	A. Mills
	(of,p)			Frank Pidgeon
X	1B,OF,3,S	1B	X	Al Reach	to 1875
X	(of)			John Snyder
X		OF	X	Josh Snyder	to 1872
	(of)			Spence
		OF	X	Marty Swandell	to 1873
	P	P		Joe Sprague
X	2B	2B	X	Jimmy Wood	to 1873

Chicago White Stockings

Chicago was founded as a professional baseball club, the first that was not an amateur club electing to "go pro". The club joined the pro NA for 1871 and returned to the field after missing two seasons in the aftermath of the fire.

This table features the 1870 team.

	1870		1871	1872	later	Chicago '74-??
	(p)	Burns
	(c)	Bill Craver	tro 27	bal 35	to 1877
	CF	Ned Cuthbert	ath 28	ath 47	to 1884	58
	SS	Ed Duffy	26
	RF	Clipper Flynn	tro 29	oly 9
	C,SS	Charlie Hodes	28	tro 13	to 1874
	(of)	Keerle
	CF,S,3,C	Mart King	20	tro 3
	1B	Bub McAtee	26	tro 25
	3B,P	Levi Meyerle	ath 26	ath 27	to 1884	53
	P,3B	Ed Pinkham	24
	LF	Fred Treacey	25	ath 47	to 1876	35
	2B,P	James Wood	28	tro 25	to 1873	mgr '74-75

Cincinnati Red Stockings

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
	x	C	C	Doug Allison	oly 27	tro 23	to 1883
			(of,p)	Atwater
	x	P,OF	P	Asa Brainard	oly 30	oly 9	to 1874
			(of,c)	Harry Deane	ftw 6		to 1874
	x	1B	1B	Charlie Gould	bos 31	bos 45	to 1877
		(of)		Dick Hurley		oly 2
		LF	LF,SS	Andy Leonard	oly 31	bos 46	to 1880
		RF	RF	Cal McVey	bos 29	bos 46	to 1879
		2B	2B	Charlie Sweasy	oly 23	cle 12	to 1878
	x	3B	3B	Fred Waterman	oly 25	oly 9	to 1875
		SS,P	SS	George Wright	bos 16	bos 48	to 1882
x	x	CF,P	CF,P	Harry Wright	bos 31	bos 48	to 1877

Cleveland, Forest City

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams. Forest City joined the pro NA for 1871 and survived two seasons so the 1871 and 1872 columns do double duty.

1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
	1B	CF	Art Allison	29	19	to 1876
	(of)		Bradbeer
x	(of,2b)	(of)	H. Brown
x	CF		Burt
		1B	Jim Carleton	29	7
		(of,p)	Chick Fulmer	roc 16	ny 36	to 1884
x	2B		Hanna
		LF	George Heubel	ath 17	oly 5	to 1876
		2B	Gene Kimball	29
		(of	Parker
	P	P	Al Pratt	29	16
	RF		John Riley
(x)	lf		Sheffield
	3B	(of)	A.R. Smith
x	SS		Eb Smith
		3B	Ezra Sutton	29	22	to 1888
	OF,2,C	SS	John Ward
x	c	C,P	Deacon White	29	22	to 1890
		OF	Elmer White	15

Irvington

(That is, the Irvington baseball club of Irvington, New Jersey.)

This table features the 1866 and 1867 teams.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
RF	RF	x	x		A. Bailey
3B,C	C	x	x		T. Buckley
CF,1B	CF	x	x		Hugh Campbell			1873 only
(of)					J. Campbell
1B	1B	x	x		Mike Campbell			1873 only
SS	OF,SS				Harry Crawford
C,3B	3B,OF				Andy Leonard	oly 31	bos 46	to 1880
LF,1B	LF,C	x			Billy Lewis
	(3b)				Lip Pike	tro 28	bal 56	to 1887
	SS		(x)		Mahlon Stockman
2B	2B				Charlie Sweasy	oly 5	cle 12	to 1878
P	P				Rynie Wolters	ny 32	cle 16	to 1873

At least one or two other major leaguers played for Irvington, Everett Mills in 1868 and perhaps John Farrow (baseball) in 1869.

Morrisania, Union

(That is, the Union baseball club of Morrisania, Bronx.)

This club is covered in the introduction.

New York, Mutual

This table features the 1867 to 1870 teams.

1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later	Mutual '73-76
		1B,P	1b			Charlie Bierman	ftw 1
				ss		Jim Carleton	cle 29	cle 7
x		SS	SS	(ss)		Tom Devyr
			c			Patsy Dockney
				CF	CF	Dave Eggler	33	56	to 1884	53
			2B	2B	(2b)	George Flanly
			(of)			Galvin
				(of)		Andrew Gedney
	(x)	2B,OF		3B	SS	John Hatfield	33	56	to 1876	52, 63, 1, 1
					(2b)	Dick Higham	21	bal 50	to 1880	49, 65, 15
(x)	(x)	CF,1B,S	of	(lf)		Charles Hunt
	x	of,3b,2b	(1b,of)	(of)		Dick Hunt		eck 11
	x	C	c			Nat Jewett		eck 2
			(of,1b)			Kelly
				(of)		Billy Lewis
	x	p,of			RF,P	Phonney Martin		tro 25	to 1873	31
(x)	x	RF,3B	RF	rf	(of)	Billy McMahon
				C	C	Charley Mills	32	6
			(1b)	1B	1B	Everett Mills	oly 32	bal 55	to 1876
					3B	Candy Nelson		tro 4	to 1884	36, 65, 70
x	x				LF	Tom Patterson	32	eck 12	to 1875	0 , 1
		OF,3,2,1	lf			Lip Pike	tro 28	bal 56	to 1877
			ss,c			Pete Shreves
			ss	(of)		Mahlon Stockman
			OF,C,3B	LF,3B	2B	Marty Swandell		eck 14	to 1873
x			(p,of)			Dick Thorn
	x	3B,LF				Fred Waterman	oly 32	oly 9	to 1875
		(p)				Watts
			P	P	P	Rynie Wolters	32	cle 16	to 1873
x	x	1b,of				John Zeller

Philadelphia, Athletic

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1864	1865	1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later	Athletic '73-76
						LF	George Bechtel	20	ny 51	to 1876	0 , 0 , 35
x	x	x					Nate Berkenstock	1
			x	x	SS,RF	RF	Tom Berry	1
			x	x	LF		Ned Cuthbert	28	47	to 1884
		x	x	x	1B	1B	Wes Fisler	28	47	to 1876	44, 37, 58, 59
				(x)	3B		Jim Foran	ftw 19
x	x	x	(x)	(x)	(of)		Hicks Hayhurst
					(1b)		George Heubel	17	oly 5	to 1876
x						C	Fergy Malone	27	41	to 1884	0 , 0 , 0 , 22
x	x	x	x	x	P,2B,S	P	Dick McBride	25	47	to 1876	49, 55, 60
					C,P,SS		John McMullin	tro 29	ny 54	to 1875	52, 55
					OF,C,P		Levi Meyerle	26	27	to 1884	0 , 0 , 0 , 55
		(x)				3B	Tom Pratt	1
			x	x	C	SS	John Radcliffe	28	bal 56	to 1875
	x	x	x	x	2B	2B	Al Reach	26	24	to 1875	13, 14, 3
				x		of	Harry Schafer	bos 31	bos 48	to 1878
		x	x	x	CF	CF	Count Sensenderfer	25	1	to 1874	20, 5
x	x	x	x	x	(ss,of)		Isaac Wilkins

One other major leaguer played for Athletic, Lip Pike in 1866.

Remarkably the champion Athletics of 1871 did not use any new men. Ten of their own veterans were the regulars and three played one game each.

Philadelphia, Keystone

The Keystone club did not retain its future major leaguers and they did not play together during any season. Probably the team was strongest sometime before 1869, the club's only professional season.

1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
x	1b,2b,of		George Albertson
	(of,p)		Allen
x	P,1B		George Bechtel	ath 20	ny 51	to 1876
	(of)	x	Clinton
x	SS,2B		Phillip Culp
	2B,1B		Billy Dick
x	C,1B		Ewell
x	SS,P,C		Dickie Flowers	tro 21	ath 3
	(p)	x	Chick Fulmer	roc 16	ny 36	to 1884
x	of,p		Joseph Gwynn
	(of,c,ss)	x	Halbach
	(of,c)		Henry
	(of,c,p)		Dan Kleinfelder
(x)	3b,of		McClarnan
	(1b)		McKenna
	(c)		John Radcliffe	ath 28	bal 56	to 18875
(x)	OF,2B		Charley Weaver
	of	x	Eddie Woods

Rockford, Forest City

(That is, the Forest City baseball club of Rockford, Illinois.)

This club joined the pro NA for 1871 so that column does double duty here.

1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
	x	x	2B	Bob Addy	25		to 1877
	x	x	(of)	Al Barker	1
	x	x	SS	Ross Barnes	bos 31	bos 45	to 1881
			(lf,1b)	Barstow
	x	x	LF	Fred Cone	bos 19
			1B	Joe Doyle
		x	3B	Tom Foley	chi 18
		x	C	Scott Hastings	25	cle 22	to 1877
			CF	Joe Simmons	chi 27	cle 18	to 1875
	x	x	P	Al Spalding	bos 31	bos 48	to 1877
	x	(x)	RF	Gat Stires	25

Troy Haymakers

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
	x	(x)	(of,1b)		William Abrams
			3B	3B	Steve Bellan	29	23	to 1873
		(x)	2B,P		Charlie Bierman	ftw 1
x	x	x	C,OF	(2b)	Bill Craver	27	bal 35	to 1877
				2B	Billy Dick
				SS	Dickie Flowers	21	ath 3
			P,2B	1B,P	Cherokee Fisher	roc 25	bal 46	to 1878
	(x)	x	OF,2B		Clipper Flynn	29	oly 9
				RF	Jim Foran	ftw 19
				(1b)	Hollister
	x	x	OF,C,1		Mart King	chi 20	3
x	x	x	OF	LF	Steve King	29	25
x	x	x	1B		Bub McAtee	chi 26	25
				C	Mike McGeary	29	ath 47	to 1882
				P	John McMullin	29	ny 54	to 1875
	x	x		(of)	Cal Penfield
			SS		Powers
				(ss)	Woolverton
				CF	Tom York	29	bal 51	to 1885

Washington, National

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams.

1866	1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later

Washington, Olympic

This table features the 1869 and 1870 teams. This club joined the pro NA for 1871 and 1872 so those columns do double duty.

The 1870 team used a lot of players. Wright provides records for all games, represented here, and for pro games only, which show six regular players: Burroughs, Ewell, Force, Fox, Hurley, and Leech.

For 1869-70 uppercase entries indicate some participation in 60% of games, lowercase 40% of games, parentheses less than 40%.

1867	1868	1869	1870		1871	1872	later
		(3b)		Barrett
			C,OF	Harry Berthrong	17
			CF	Henry Burroughs	12	2
			3b,ss	Philip Culp
x	x	(of,1b)		Denison
			C	Ewell
x	x	SS,3B	SS,C	Davy Force	32	tro 25	to 1886
			POS?	George Fox
			2b,3b,rf	Andrew Gibney
			(of)	John Glenn	26	9	to 1877
			1b,2b	Holly Hollingshead		nat 9	to 1875
		(3b)	OF,2B,1B	Dick Hurley		2
x	x	P	P	Ed Leech
	x	C,1B		Fergy Malone	ath 27	ath 41	to 1884
x	x	1B		Harry McLean
		(1b)		William Miller
			(2b)	Frank Norton	1
		2B,SS	(of,ss)	Bob Reach		2	to 1873
x	x	OF	lf	Val Robinson		7
		3b,1b		M.E. Urell
	x	of		Eddie Woods
		(pos?)		Sam Yeatman
x	(x)	OF,1B	1b,rf	Nick Young	Secy*		to 1901*