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Woodland Trust

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Opposition to construction

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After works began at various places, protest camps were set up by people wanting to stop the destruction of ancient woodlands.

In June 2020, Extinction Rebellion and other groups organised the "Rebel Trail", a protest march of 125 miles from Birmingham to London which stopped at camps in Warwickshire, Buckinghamshire and London.[1]

Denham

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  • Colne Valley Regional Park

Midlands

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In the West Midlands, an injunction was brought by HS2 to prevent campaigners accessign woods - source

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  • Added to talk, provoked a good discussion, which seems now to have gone stale
  • I've been adding some updates to the article today and I wanted to make some more major suggestions for improving the article as a whole which would need discussion here first before implementing. Overall I would say the article needs some work, as is to be expected with a megaproject that is going on for years, information can easily become outdated or even wrong. I am a bit concerned by the "Proposed service pattern" section, it seems a bit WP:CRYSTALBALL and it's unreferenced. "Journey times" has some references from 2012, which are probably quite outdated now. The lead is really long and doesn't summarise everything in the article, MOS:LEADLENGTH suggests maximum four paragraphs and it seems to have some rather minor details in it, what are currently paragraphs 3, 4 and 5 could be pruned pretty heavily I would say. I also find the section ordering overall a bit strange, for example there obviously should be a section for the Oakervee Review but shoehorning it in at the top seems questionable. I hope no-one takes this personally, an article can become bloated over time and that's no-one's fault, but as someone reading it with fresh eyes, these are some things I noticed today.
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  • Hi 86.19.244.96 and welcome to wikipedia! I've reverted your edits to HS2 since you were adding information from the HS2 Limited media centre and it is much better to use reliable secondary sources. For some of this at least it's not hard, for example I added the news about Curzon Street as reported by architectsjournal.co.uk. When you said you corrected a mistake on the date, this was not correct according to the secondary source. By the way, if you have a Conflict of interest here that's not necessarily a problem, but you would be advised to mention it at Talk:High Speed 2. Cheers and happy editing!
  • I've been thinking more about to improve the page.
    • The lead is now down to 4 paragraphs, which is a suitable length. I think the first paragraph (what HS2 is) and the fourth paragraph (costs, Oakervee and protests) are ok, but two and three really need some work. They shoudl be summarising the rest of the article and they are not doing that. By the way I don't consider references to be needed in the lead unless supporting extraordinary claims or direct quotes, because everything in the lead should be referenced in the article below. It should be a quick summary of the article contents.
    • Another thing perhaps is how people see the page, since perhaps we see it in very different ways. HS2 refers to the trainline first and foremost but also to the company building it, HS2 Limited, and also the social and political issue around it. People coming to this article want information on all three of these things and updates on the current situation. We aren't a news source but we should take care to not present predictions which then age badly. Therefore the article still needs a lot of work in my opinion.
    • Another thing is to use reliable secondary sources if possible.

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Extra notes

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To do

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Costs

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HS2 review

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Kirby

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more

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court cases

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Extra

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  • T22
  • R (HS2 Action Alliance Ltd) v Secretary of State for Transport

References

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  1. ^ Stretton, Rachel (20 June 2020). "Extinction Rebellion on 125-mile 'Rebel Trail' protest". Coventry Telegraph. Archived from the original on 19 July 2020. Retrieved 24 July 2020.
  2. ^ "HS2 begins evicting activists from protest site after two years". Guardian. 7 January 2020. Archived from the original on 13 June 2020. Retrieved 24 July 2020.
  3. ^ Taylor, Diane (18 July 2019). "Case against HS2 environmental protesters collapses". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 30 June 2020. Retrieved 24 July 2020.
  4. ^ Media, P. A. (4 May 2020). "HS2 protesters block sites and call for money to go to NHS". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 18 May 2020. Retrieved 24 July 2020.
  5. ^ "Eco-activists injured in 20-foot drop from trees when contractors cut their rope". Metro. 27 July 2020. Retrieved 5 August 2020.
  6. ^ Dean, Sam (6 March 2020). "HS2 protesters setup camp in Roald Dahl wood near Aylesbury". Bucks Herald. Retrieved 14 July 2020.
  7. ^ Berkeley, Lord (4 January 2020). "HS2 review was unduly influenced and lacked independence". The Telegraph. Retrieved 5 August 2020.
  8. ^ Hall, Dewey W. (2016). Romantic Naturalists, Early Environmentalists: An Ecocritical Study, 1789-1912. Routledge. p. 14. ISBN 978-1-317-06151-9. Retrieved 24 July 2020.
  9. ^ Randall, Lord (15 February 2020). "Why I almost resigned from the Tories over HS2". The Telegraph. Archived from the original on 5 June 2020. Retrieved 30 July 2020.
  10. ^ Paton, Graeme (22 July 2020). "HS2 chief's £660,000 pay package causes 'deep disquiet' in Whitehall". The Times. Archived from the original on 28 July 2020. Retrieved 30 July 2020.
  11. ^ Kinchen, Rosie (26 July 2020). "Inside the anti‑HS2 campaign: my bed is high up in the trees at the protesters' base camp". Times. Archived from the original on 26 July 2020. Retrieved 30 July 2020.
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