Template talk:Infobox political party

RfC: Key positions parameter

I have noticed that a new convention has formed regarding the ideology parameter, which is to only put one or two all-encompassing ideologies (see Labour Party (UK)). It used to be the case that the ideology parameter had five or so more specific entries that gave the reader a good impression of the party at a glance (see Bharatiya Janata Party).

In light of this, I think a 'Key positions' parameter would be a good addition which has, say maximum five entries which editors agree on, including regarding their order, and they would be based on citations from recent academia. The policy on this could distinguish between social, economic, national, and international positions to ensure a wide coverage. A national one could be say Unionism for a UK party, and an international one could be Euroscepticism for a European party.

The name 'Key positions' is problematic as there are political jobs also called positions, however I can't think of a better term. Maybe 'Political positions'? Alexanderkowal (talk) 18:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I've mentioned this on the wiki project politics page Alexanderkowal (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I have deactivated the edit request template until there is consensus about what should be added and how, preferably by making changes to the sandbox version of the template. I have no opinion on the merits of the proposal except that "key positions" is a confusing name, because "position" can mean both "ideological stance on an issue" and "job held by a person within an organization". Use different wording. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed but I couldn’t think of better wording Alexanderkowal (talk) 18:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Moving "europarl =" up a notch

Hi,

I want to propose a small change: moving a party's affiliation to a parliamentary group in the European Parliament ("europarl = ") before "continental affiliation" and "international affiliation". Here is my reasoning.

Currently, we have an order that follows a growing geographical focus: national, regional, european, continental, and international. Placing "europarl" after "international" is therefore not geographically logical. One might argue that the first series is for political parties (and therefore includes European political parties at the right level), while "europarl" is for parliamentary affiliation. This is true, but, apart from European parties, supra-national parties do not really exist, and "continental" and "international" affiliations are affiliations to broad political alliances, not to actual international political parties. European parliamentary groups are much more homogeneous and "effective" or "concrete" than international affiliations.

Finally, in practice with the current order, the infobox for European parties shows the ideology, then political position, then international affiliation, and finally EP affiliation. Given the tenuousness of international affiliation compared to EP group affiliation, this does not seem appropriate. The same goes for national parties across Europe, where EP affiliation is more important than international affiliation.

This change would, of course, not have an impact on non-EU parties, since their "europarl" field is empty.

Thanks!

Julius Schwarz (talk) 10:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)