Template talk:Country data United Kingdom

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Please add sl:Predloga:Podatki države Združeno kraljestvo. Thanks. --Eleassar ^{my talk}

 Done --Selket ^Talk 16:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Please add af:Sjabloon:Landdata Verenigde Koninkryk Laurens-af 07:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Naval Ensign

Could you please add an alias for the naval ensign Image:Naval Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg to be used for naval commanders in battleboxes. Thanks. --Himasaram 02:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

 Done Andrwsc 04:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Earlier naval ensign

Could someone please add an additional alias for the previous version of the naval ensign, Image:British-White-Ensign-1707.svg used between 1707 and 1800, for use with ship class articles. Cheers. Martocticvs 10:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done. Use {{flagicon|United Kingdom|naval-1707}} for or {{navy|United Kingdom|naval-1707}} for Royal Navy. Hope this helps, Andrwsc 03:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

RAF Ensign

Please would an administrator add:

flag alias-air force = Image:Air Force Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg

link alias-air force = Royal Air Force

Thanks. Greenshed (talk) 01:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, link alias-air force won't do anything, because no template looks for that parameter. What are you trying to do? Andrwsc (talk) 01:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah. Sorry, I haven't fully understood all the templates in play here. What I'm after is:

{{flagicon|United Kingdom|air force}} →

{{air force|United Kingdom}} → Royal Air Force

Then these options can be used in air force biography articles and battles in which the RAF took part. Greenshed (talk) 18:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so you need Template:air force to be created. If you can wait a day or two, I can work on it. Thanks, Andrwsc (talk) 18:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Civil Ensign

Can a variant be added for Image:Civil Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg to be used on commercial vesels (currently working on updating RMS Queen Mary 2 to use current ship info-box template per WP:SHIPS, to get the flag to display in the correct location needs an update of the "flag" template). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

 Done Andrwsc (talk) 00:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Blue ensign requested

Can a variant be added for Image:Government Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg? This is the blue ensign used for some commercial ships, especially historic ships such as the RMS Titanic. Currently, those articles are linking the svg directly, but using a template variant from here would simplify that usage. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

 Done — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Can it be done with an alternate call, for when it is used in a non-government setting, eg as a member of a yacht club. Technically not required, but could avoid confusion among later editors. GraemeLeggett (talk) 21:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

We need {{Country data United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland}} creating. I've had to do a work around to get the to link to the correct article. Also, many ships articles covering ships on the UK register up to 1922 currently link to United Kingdom instead of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, so the civil and government ensigns will need to be added. The naval ensign really should link to the Royal Navy article. To save a lot of typing, would it be possible to call the template UKGBI (is a redirect a possibility)? Mjroots (talk) 09:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Removal of 1606 and naval-1707 variants

These icons are now only available from {{Country data Kingdom of Great Britain}}. This is an improvement, since the previously used idiom of {{flagicon|UK|1606}} linked to the United Kingdom article, whereas {{flagicon|Kingdom of Great Britain}} links to the more appropriate Kingdom of Great Britain article. I have verified that every instance of the old usage has been replaced before I removed the deprecated variants. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Paedia, 1 November 2010

{{edit protected}} Please add

| flag alias-war = Flag of the United Kingdom (3-5).svg
| related4 = British Empire

as flag alias-army is non-ceremonial per British Army#Flags and ensigns. Cheers, Pædia 08:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done by User:TheDJ — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

If the 3-5 flag is the official flag of the British Army, then it should be used with the army variant. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

True, however, in this template there could be an exception for the Army Flag. The 1:2 flag looks awkwardly redundant with the 3:5 flag, e.g. John Brunt, 216 Parachute Squadron Royal Signals; and the Army Flag is nearly 20 years older than its equivalent United States Army flag, oddly which is one of only two branch flags (the other the United States Air Force flag) in {{Country data US}}. Cheers, Pædia 01:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the real question to be answered is what is the intended use of these icons. For example, there is consensus to use naval ensigns on ship articles, but the (mostly ornamental) air force and army flags are occasionally used within {{Infobox military person}} instances, but not universally. (Also note that the ornamental File:USNavyFlag-Official.svg is only used as a decoration within {{US Navy navbox}} and two vexillology articles, and nowhere else.) I don't think those instances are compliant with WP:MOSFLAG either, as they are "purely decorational". Perhaps a discussion should be started at WT:MILHIST...? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 03:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I think this has been discussed before, at least for biographical articles. I cannot really see why air force ensigns and army flags are ornamental but navy ones are not. If a discussion is started at WT:MILHIST, I would welcome an invite. Greenshed (talk) 19:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Non-ceremonial British Army flag

I would be grateful if the following could be added:
{{army-non-ceremonial|United Kingdom}} British Army
Thanks Greenshed (talk) 19:11, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is no such thing as {{army-non-ceremonial}}, so that wikicode isn't going to work, and would be awkward to implement.

The real question is, what are you trying to do? Is a 22x20px icon of the army flag actually useful in any articles, or is it a violation of WP:MOSICON? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Can you be clearer? Why would it be a violation of WP:MOSICON?? Kernel Saunters (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the paragraph at WP:ICONDECORATION is applicable. How does the tiny image help the reader any more than the British Army wikilink already does? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

In the case of Chief of the Defence Staff (United Kingdom), it is easier to see at a glance how the trend has gone towards appointing Army officers to CDS than would be the case if words only were used. Greenshed (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Agree with this and it has been used on hundreds of biographies by multiple editors for some years now. I often need to distinguish service from different armies and the icon is a useful visual differentiationKernel Saunters (talk) 11:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

RNLI

Would it be possible to add the RNLI flag and have it linked to the article on the institution? Thus {{flag|United Kingdom|RNLI}} would produce Royal National Lifeboat Institution. N.B. The border is needed here. Mjroots (talk) 08:22, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Royal Standard

Could the Royal Standard of the United Kingdom be added so it could be used at least as a flagicon? {{editprotected}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ransewiki (talk • contribs) 10:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Can someone please remove those goddamn incorrect World Fact Book flags?

They are incorrect and should be deleted not only from this template, but from Wikipedia. I'm sick of seeing them wherever this template is used. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 13:32, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 5 October 2018

Please replace File:Naval ensign of the United Kingdom.svg with File:Naval Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg. This file was renamed some time ago. Fry1989 ^eh? 18:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 7 January 2019

flag alias-1801 = Flag of the United Kingdom (WFB 2000).svg
flag alias-2004 = Flag of the United Kingdom (WFB 2004).svg
flag alias-2009 = Flag of the United Kingdom (WFB 2009).svg
Remove these flags as they are just based on the shades used in pictures in different editions of the CIA World Factbook (you can see if you open the flag image) and not are official or even real changes to the flag used by UK, they should not be included and especially not linked to a specific year
Havsjö (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done. the flag list for the UK states that the current design has not changed since 1801. Removing all 3. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 09:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 January 2019

var8 = 1801
var9 = 2004
var10 = 2009
These lines needs to be removed as well ! Havsjö (talk) 01:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done SiBr₄ (talk) 18:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

TPER of 4 May 2019

Please add this:

|flag alias-navy=Queen's Colour for the Royal Navy.svg
|link alias-navy=Royal Navy

Below this:

| link alias-coast guard = Her Majesty's Coastguard

– Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 Question: we already have the alias "naval". Where do you propose to use this new alias and why is the existing flag not sufficient? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:41, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Request disabled. No response from OP — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Royal Naval Reserve and Merchant Navy

Requesting two additional flag and link aliases, for the Royal Naval Reserve and the Merchant Navy:

| flag alias-naval reserve = Naval Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg
| link alias-naval reserve = Royal Naval Reserve

| flag alias-merchant navy = Civil Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg
| link alias-merchant navy = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy

Jay D. Easy (t • c) 17:48, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done S.A. Julio (talk) 18:45, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

British Armed Forces

Could the flag of the British Armed Forces please be updated to: Image:British Tri Services Logo.svg.png. Thank you. — TheArmchairSoldier (talk) 17:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Coast guard flag

To all it may concern, I just uploaded a file to Commons to supersede the Coast guard flag, so I recommend we change line | flag alias-coast guard = Flag of Her Majesty's Coastguard.png to | flag alias-coast guard = Flag of Her Majesty's Coastguard.svg Kingdom of Baustralia (talk) 18:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

with the grace of her majesty, this is  Done ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Royal Marines name

Request change from Corps of Royal Marines to Royal Marines to match the article title. Garuda28 (talk) 23:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Support request per nominator. Dormskirk (talk) 20:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:22, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 October 2022

Adding the following aliases for diplomatic missions: "embassy" and "consulate"

Lines to add:
| flag alias-embassy = British Ambassador Ensign.svg
| flag alias-consulate = UK-Consular.svg
ChaseYUL99 (talk) 05:14, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 07:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Navy/naval flag and link alias inconsistencies

The current template is inconsistent in its handling of navy/naval flag and link aliases, as a result of which some only work when used with {{naval}} but not with {{navy}}. I've been tinkering in the sandbox and I think I've fixed it so that all flag-alias-navy, flag-alias-naval, link-alias-navy, and link-alias-naval variants now work when used with either {{navy}} or {{naval}}. Requesting a pull of my latest fork. Jay D. Easy (t) 19:08, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Quick edit: I just realized this is the perfect opportunity to push a minor correction as well: Her Majesty's Coastguard→His Majesty's Coastguard. Requesting a pull of my actual latest fork. Jay D. Easy (t) 19:21, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Test cases are where?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:32, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

As you wish. Jay D. Easy (t) 20:09, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

What is the intended difference between these two templates? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Long and short: proposer has used switches to handle the navy and naval variants, so that they don't appear to need to be included in the |var#= parameters. Pretty cool, actually! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 11:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

On his/her testcases Template:Country data United Kingdom/testcases the two template sandboxes of navy and naval seem to produce identical output. So I'm just wondering if we need two separate templates. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Martin, you probably saw the testcases page while I was changing the sandbox to make some tests. It's now back to the nom's sandbox version (with a small change I made from |var9=consulate to |var6=consulate), so there are a few differences now when you purge the testcases page. Again, while the changes do appear to be acceptable for use as shown on the testcases page, I still have an issue with the variants not appearing in the Flag variants table. Editors would look at this template and not know they could apply the GS variant or others that also don't appear. I'm just not sure this edit is an improvement. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 13:20, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Maybe I'm being stupid, but I still can't see any difference between the output of these templates.

Royal Naval Reserve

Royal Naval Reserve

The first one is produced by {navy} and the second one by {naval} — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that's correct and the way it should be. Compare with the live template:

Royal Navy (navy live)

Royal Naval Reserve (navy sandbox)

Royal Naval Reserve (naval live)

Royal Naval Reserve (naval sandbox)

and that seems to be the desired difference: that the Navy template shows the correct link. The Navy template should not link to Royal Navy, it should link to the Royal Naval Reserve. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 21:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

So why are there two separate templates if they are supposed to do the same thing? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:21, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I asked that same question long ago. Editors who have been involved with these Country data templates answered that many of them actually do have different results for navy and naval. And that has proven to be true as I've edited these through the years. In this particular template, the navy and naval yield (or should yield) the same flags and links. That's not always the case in many of these CD meta templates. I'll find a few examples for you. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 21:41, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

{{Country data United States}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Spain}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Portugal}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Libya}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Egypt}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Brazil}} same links, different flags; {{Country data Pakistan}} same links, different flags, and many more. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 22:08, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Okay that's fine. You just confused me earlier because when I commented that the outputs looked the same, you seemed to disgree. No opposition to making these changes. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Only thing I see that might be a problem is that the navy and naval variants don't appear in the Flag variants table. Might still have to use the |var#= parameters after all? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 12:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

To editors Jay D. Easy, Trappist the monk and Martin: there is a new version in the [sandbox] that appears to do what the nom wants AND make the flag variants appear in the Flag variants table. It seems that the switches work okay with link aliases, but not with flag aliases. Each flag alias must have its own parameter in the Country showdata template if it is to appear in the Flag variants table to help editors find them. They must also be included in the list of |var#= parameters. The Country showdata template allows up to |var=40, and this template only appears to need 17 variants in those parameters. The [test cases] page shows the results. If there are no objections, I'll make the sandbox live soon. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 21:00, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Jay D. Easy (t) 18:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 June 2023

unnecessary duplication – repeated twice in this template

− | merchant|merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | reserve|reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | RFA|RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | RMAS|RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | RNLI|RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution | naval-merchant|naval-merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | naval-reserve|naval-reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | naval-RFA|naval-RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | naval-RMAS|naval-RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | naval-RNLI|naval-RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution + |merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy |reserve = Royal Naval Reserve |RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary |RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service |RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution |naval-merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy |naval-reserve = Royal Naval Reserve |naval-RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary |naval-RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service |naval-RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution

Desb42 (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 16:21, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 November 2024

Please add the following lines for the RFA ensign (Admiralty Ensign) used until 1969:

Edits

| flag alias-RFA-1905 = Government Service Ensign.svg | flag alias-naval-RFA-1905 = Government Service Ensign.svg | var18 = RFA-1905 | var19 = naval-RFA-1905 And replace the following lines: | link alias-naval = {{#switch:{{{variant|}}} | merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution | naval-merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | naval-reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | naval-RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | naval-RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | naval-RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution | #default = Royal Navy }} to | link alias-naval = {{#switch:{{{variant|}}} | merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | RFA-1905 = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution | naval-merchant = Merchant Navy (United Kingdom){{!}}Merchant Navy | naval-reserve = Royal Naval Reserve | naval-RFA-1905 = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | naval-RFA = Royal Fleet Auxiliary | naval-RMAS = Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service | naval-RNLI = Royal National Lifeboat Institution | #default = Royal Navy }} See sources in the article Government Service Ensign#History.

Thanks. --80.234.70.176 (talk) 00:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 08:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)