Talk:Yulia (singer)
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editCalling her Yulia Maclean is absurd. She is know as either "Yulia", "Yulia Townsend", or her Russian sirname. Usually as "Yulia Townsend". Calling her "Yulia Maclean" is an excellent way of making sure no one finds her. I don't think the MacleaNZ is being used now either. It was made up temporarily for a competition, as I understand it.Stunz (talk) 23:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
UPDATE FROM YULIA'S MANAGEMENT: Yulia's official "brand" names have been "Yulia Townsend" (SONY MUSIC & SONY BMG) and "Yulia". From Nov 07 Yulia registered the brand name "Yulia" with IPONZ (Intellectual Property Office New Zealand) and traded exclusively under the brand name "Yulia". All public references in 2008 onwards have been "Yulia" internationally and in New Zealand.
I changed "opera" singer to "crossover" singer since Yulia has never performed in opera and only part of her music is opera or even classical music, thus there's no reason to call her opera singer.
UPDATE FROM YULIA'S MANAGEMENT: Yulia is categorised as a "solo vocal" or "pop vocal" singer. Myspace and numerous other internet charts prefer this category.
This is true. She has never done opera or trained for it. She is in the category that Decca and other record companies call "classical", but since this is controversial, "crossover" may be the best term. It describes clearly what is happening without getting on anyone's goat, or contradicting former "definitions". Stunz (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
UPDATE FROM YULIA'S MANAGEMENT: Yulia received voice "coaching" (including Opera) during her time with SONY MUSIC and SONY BMG respectively. So she has received some training in Opera. Yulia was offered an internship with Southern Opera in NZ but turned it down. She has been privately trained by Valerie Maximov, a famous baritone and by Emily Mair at NZ School of Music.
Yulia moved to NZ in 2002
editI changed the reference to Yulia moving from Russia to NZ in 2004 to 2002. It was actually September 2002. 2004 was the year her first album was released in NZ.
Gerrit
Yulia was born in 1986
editThe caption under Yulia's album cover stated that Yulia was born in 1988. However, that should be 1986. You can check the biography at Yulia's official site, which was published at the time of the release of Montage (April 2006), where it states that Yulia was 20 at that time. I have changed the year on the very day that Yulia turned 21 (9 January 2007).
62.195.59.71 20:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC) Gerrit
I dunno, I thought that she was a least two years older than Hayley Westenra, but 1986 means they would have been born in the same year. I doubt it, but will try to do some research. Stunz (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC) UPDATE FROM YULIA'S MANAGEMENT: Yulia was born 09/01/1986
Tone
editI have edited the biography section a bit to try to make it more like a wikipedia page and less like a fan site. However it still needs more work, perferably from someone who is familiar with the subject... NZ forever 01:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE FROM YULIA'S MANAGEMENT: Please check accuracy with Yulia's management. Too much irrelevant and incorrect information has appeared on Wikipedia and is broadcast across numerous sites. Some of this has been defamatory and we had complained to Wikipedia about this.
- Yulia's Management should not be editing the article. See WP:COI. If you want to help, please find some reviews of her work in reliable publications, and post them here on the talk page. At present, the only reference is the Nightline report. Myspace, Facebook, Youtube and her own site are not reliable sources.-gadfium 20:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Yulia.jpg
editImage:Yulia.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Content - Yulia gained her New Zealand citizen subsequent to marrying Glyn - nonsense
editShe got it a number of years ago with an English friend of mine who got his at the same time. She sang at the ceremony where a number of New Citizens were given their NZ Citizenship at the same time.
There has been a lot of News about Yulia and her husband being harrassed on the Internet and they have even gone to the police after phone calls (or a phone call). She should be called Yulia Townsend in my opinion. Much of the stuff being put on wiki is mischievous. The implication that she married a much older man to get New Zealand citizenship can easily be disproved.Stunz (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no explanation in the article for the name Townsend. I presume her mother married a Mr Townsend. In that case she would probably have obtained NZ citizenship through her step father. Can anyone explain what "invited 168 fans to the wedding at their own cost" means? Cost of guests, or cost of the married couple?203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:44, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- We do not "explain" the name because reliable sources do not explain it. If you find reliable sources that do, please feel free to add it to the article. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Factual Information
edit- has been added to the introduction —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.243.31 (talk) 22:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Yulia's Vocal Category
editWhy are people insisting that she is a contralto, and then citing a source (her myspace) that declares no such thing? She is a coloratura mezzo soprano. This IS sourced and the artist has said this on numerous occasions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirtrione (talk • contribs) 06:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Wedding
editWhat does "The pair married in February, 2008 and invited 168 fans to the wedding at their own cost" mean? Surely people do not pay to attend weddings?122.59.67.48 (talk) 09:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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Requested move 30 December 2016
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved to Yulia (singer), as she is properly known by the mononym. It should be mentioned that Yulia herself does not get to dictate what this article is called or its content. This decision is based on the consensus of the editors and by applicable Wikipedia policy. (non-admin closure) Bradv 05:35, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Yulia MacLean → Yulia – Yulia wishes for this page to simply be named "Yulia". She does not like the MacLean being included in the title. This would also match her current brand name. As you can see from her website, she is known as Yulia. Do not sign this. 101.100.131.157 (talk) 06:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. Yulia is a disambiguation page (WP:DISAMBIG) for lots of people named Yulia. Sorry, it isn't happening that she is so critically important that she can displace every other person named Yulia. Would Yulia (singer) work? (I suspect Wikipedia prefers last names, but if she doesn't advertise herself under them...)? There's also some material that seems shaky on the references, like linking a YouTube video for her wedding. It'd probably be handy if there was a more extensive biography section on her official webpage if she wants a more bulletproof Wikipedia article. SnowFire (talk) 07:14, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, not seeing immediate evidence for Yulia (singer) either. though locally in NZ maybe. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Oppose per other Yulia's, butnow (4 January) Support Yulia (singer)(there are other singers, so 'New Zealand' would work). I enjoyed the "Do not sign this" in the nom, possibly somebody copying a memo or note (from Yulia herself?) and adding in the private directional language (like a politician reading "pause" in a prepared speech). Of course I don't know that to be true, just a fun guess. Randy Kryn 13:22, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the truth is less exciting: the "Do not sign this" is part of boilerplate instructions to request a page move… IP user probably didn't realize they should remove this part. — JFG talk 22:14, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you, and my apologies to Yulia's support staff (or fan club?). Randy Kryn 22:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the truth is less exciting: the "Do not sign this" is part of boilerplate instructions to request a page move… IP user probably didn't realize they should remove this part. — JFG talk 22:14, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Support a move to Yulia (singer). I don't see a need to add an extra NZ disambiguator, as there are apparently no other articles about singers mononymously know as "Yulia". — JFG talk 22:14, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- You make a good point. Randy Kryn 23:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. Frankly, what Yulia wants is immaterial (and Yulia wants quite a lot, as we can see below; maybe Yulia doesn't know the difference between an encyclopaedia and a promotional tool!). Yulia (singer) would, however, be acceptable if this is indeed her best-known name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:19, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Support move to Yulia (singer) per JFG. It does appear that she is known by her mononym and uses it professionally; her albums at least have been released under the name "Yulia" and she is referred to as Yulia in various publications (e.g. [1] [2] [3]), hardly universally but at least somewhat often. We should consider the request in the context of having been requested by the article subject, but that in itself is not a reason to reject it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Support move to Yulia (singer) per JFG and Ivanvector. Since "Yulia" is apparently this performer's stage name, it should be reflected in the article's main title header in the same manner as the names of other mononymous performers such as Abigail (singer), Emmie (singer), Gabrielle (singer) or Leilani (singer). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 09:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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Photo Change
editYulia would like the picture on this page changed, to the one on the 'news' section of her website. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.100.131.157 (talk) 07:03, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I'd like rainbows after a heavy rain of fifty-pound notes, but in order to get what Yulia wants someone would have to upload an alternate uncopyrighted image and either put it on the page to see if it sticks or bring it to this talk page. Tell Yulia Happy New Year, and buy her a drink or something on me. Randy Kryn 17:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment for the original requester. On a slightly more helpful note, it would be trivial for an experienced editor to upload the picture, or you could if you wanted, it's not hard to learn ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard ). However. We can't unless the picture is released under a free license. Is Yulia asserting that she owns all the rights to this picture , and that she is releasing the picture to the public under cc-by-sa, aka what's on File:Yulia MacLean.jpg#Licensing right now? That she's okay with the unlikely scenario of people/companies/politicians she hates potentially taking that picture, and uploading it for whatever purpose they want with modifications, and there's no legal recourse that she doesn't want her picture advertising discount cow guts or whatever? If she's okay with that, then go ahead and upload it. SnowFire (talk) 03:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, my apologies to the original questioner for not being more helpful and actually being quite insulting. Wikipedia is much better than my flippant remarks here, and again, my apologies. Randy Kryn 23:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)