Talk:Women in the Arab world

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-Are you talking about women in Saudia Arabia or women in Arab countries. Syria,Lebanon,Morocco,Tunisia,Kuwait and Egypt should be mentioned in the article.It is unfair to give one side and ignore the other--Aziz1005 16:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, all of those countries are game. Please help out this article. It obviously could use a lot of work. One thing that stands out is that the "After Islam" section doesn't recognize that Islam still kept things unequal, like inheritance, etc. Also, we are trying to choose a picture of a significant non-Muslim Arab woman who lives in an Arab society. Right now we are left with:

• Najwa Karam - Supposedly a Maronite Christian, but I can't confirm this. Otherwise a good choice.
• Achinoam Nini - Jewish Arab in Israel. It is not known whether or not she has done any Arabic work.
• Ofra Haza - Jewish Arab in Israel. It is not known whether or not she has done any Arabic work.
• Shoshana Damari - Jewish Arab in Israel. It is not known whether or not she has done any Arabic work.

The problem with the women from Israel is that it is not clear whether or not Israel can be considered an "Arab society" at all, and it is also not clear whether or not they are part of that possible Arab society, so the last three may not be good choices. Najwa Karam seems good but we need a source saying that she is Christian. In any case, improving the article content is more important than any picture, so please, help out if you can. Thanks. The Behnam 20:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

According to my knowledge Najwa Karam is a Christian I don’t really know whether she is a Maronite or not although now a days Maronite consider their self’s as Arab. The other point that should be mentioned is Arab women were an important part of the Arab history like Thatu alhimma ذات الهمة Shajaratu aldur شجرة الدر Alkhansaa الخنساء Jameela the singer جميلة المغنية (Arabian queens, poets and singers from the pre-Islamic ,early Islamic and medieval eras)

Also we should mention some notable contemporary Arab women like Naziha Al-Dulaymi (the first Arab woman to be a Minster ,Iraq,1958); Nazik Almalaaeka نازك الملائكة Hanan Alshiekh حنان الشيخ (contemporary poets and writers); Umm Kulthum,Nancy Ajram, Elissa,Farida , Latifa (singers) ..It is actually endless list.the thing that hinders me is that I dont have enough time to write --Aziz1005 23:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed a photo (Arabwiki.jpg) due to it being an incorrect reference. Excluding the fact that it appears to be in a restaurant, they're wearing clothing inappropriate to the dance and they're not performing arm to arm in a full circle, it's actually generally not relevant to the article in total. I apologize to whomever placed the photo. Was a pleasant image, just not right for the article.--Iamconfidence (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Arab Zoroastarians?

Zoroastarianism is a religion which had virtually no adherence with any Arabs - even the Sabaetians who were under Persian Influence briefly. It is a non-Semetic religion originating in the North of the Iranian Plateau, and it would be much more likely that they either followed traditional Arabian/Semetic (Pagan) religions of those of their Semetic cousins in Judea, Israel, The Levant and Mesopotamia. I taken out that unsourced section (most likely written by the numerous Persian Nationalist scum marauding here). Provide proof of significant Zoroastarian adherence amongst those Arabs or keep it at what's widely known and accepted (adherence to Christianity, Judaism and Traditional Semetic beliefs. Pink Princess (talk) 15:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Women's legal status

From the article, Women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later. Thats utterly nonsense, depending on what culture one talks in specific, there was a wide range from absolute no status and rights to de facto equality (Etruscans, Spartan or Atheniean women, women of old Egypt, Celtic and German tribes, Jewish and different Arabic tribes, etc.). Great parts of this article only reflect the traditional Islamic point of view.-- 178.115.8.207 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC).

Navbox removal

FYI, I removed {{Women in society}} as the thrust of the navbox is sociological where this article appears to be more geographically / anthopologically oriented. ClaretAsh 11:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Directly state your POV.

You should directly state at the onset that your POV is Feminist. This will alert the reader to your bias.van Lustig (talk) 09:48, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

NPOV dispute

This article is completely biased. You can see the personal opinion of the author plastered in almost each line. Hoping someone will actually correct this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.199.143.202 (talk) 14:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 25 October 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 11:14, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Women in Arab societies → Women in the Arab world – Too vague. Per WP:CONSISTENCY with Arab world. Secondary option Women in Arab culture per Arab culture. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Support. feminist (talk) 17:41, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Comment ALT. On a second note, I'd advocate Women in Arab culture as primary option. But am open for arguments. Either of the above would still be better than the precurrent. Chicbyaccident (talk) 19:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

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This article has multiple issues and is inadequate to the diversity of life in the Arab world

Hello, I just flagged multiple issues, inadequate lead and the lack of citations. Even though I see that this article was at least partly written as part of an educational project, sentences like "Although the Arab mentality has changed a lot the last few years,..." and many of the other statements are examples of POV and ethnocentric, biased views on this subject. - Even though it refers to many historical and geographically diverse societies, this article needs many more balanced and diverse descriptions. - I will try to work on this in the coming weeks, but anybody else who shares my criticism, is certainly welcome to join in. Munfarid1 (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2020 (UTC)