Talk:Underworld: Blood Wars

Requested move 12 April 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:35, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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Underworld: Next Generation → Underworld: Blood Wars – Blood Wars is the correct subtitle for the next upcoming Underworld film. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:27, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

• Comment Bilel85 (talk · contribs) already cut-and-pasted the article to the new location. This talk page has been left behind ; I have requested a WP:SPLICE -- 70.51.45.100 (talk) 05:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Previous Titles

There's a been a bit of back and forth about whether to add information about previous / alternate titles in the lead (@Joeyconnick:). Generally speaking, anything in the lead should also be mentioned within the article with a reliable source. Without the information being included and/or expanded upon in the article, and without reliable sources, the alternate and previous titles should probably be left out. If we can add the information, with sources, to the article though I think the information is a good addition to the lead. jmcgowan2 (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Cool... that's the kind of reasoning I was looking for. Thanks @Jmcgowan2:.

Copyright Reminder

I've noticed a few instances of people copy and pasting material from articles into this page. That is a violation of WP:Copyrights and WP:plagiarism. Please summarize information from reliable sources into your own, encyclopedia-type, wording for inclusion in the article. I went ahead and re-wrote the plot summary to try and avoid the copyright violations. jmcgowan2 (talk) 12:44, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Page Protection

I've requested semi-protection for the page due to the constant unsourced edits. jmcgowan2 (talk) 14:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Joeyconnick (talk) 22:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately the request was denied. I guess the amount of reverting we've had to do is considered 'not bad' for a soon-to-be-released movie :( jmcgowan2 (talk) 14:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Ugh! Joeyconnick (talk) 21:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Adding information based on viewing the movie

All - if you've already seen the movie and want to add information from the movie that's not found in referencable, reliable sources, please make a note here on the Talk page or in the edit comments. We've had a lot of unsourced information added to this page and there's a few of us that have been trying to revert anything that's unsourced. I don't want to revert good information just because it appears to be unsourced. Thank you! jmcgowan2 (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Year of Release

It looks like the year of release is getting changed back and forth between 2016 and 2017, so let's bring it here for discussion. My understanding is that the year of release is based off of the year it is released in the country of production (in this case, America), which would make it a 2017 movie. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble finding any actual wikipedia policy on this. jmcgowan2 (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@Jmcgowan2: Actually, I thought so too... but I just checked WP:FILMYEAR and apparently you and I are wrong. —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Well poo on me then. jmcgowan2 (talk) 13:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

This is a little confusing, but I think it looks the "cleanest" if it's just the US release date in the infobox and we make it a "2017 American film". The infobox rule is pretty clear, and "international" is not a country or even a specific, so I think this is our best course of action... TropicAces (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@TropicAces:It's not about "cleanest" according to individual editors: it's about the policy/guideline and there is nothing unclear about WP:FILMYEAR—it is clearly a 2016 film per that definition. And actually, you're wrong about the Infobox being restricted to country of production: it clearly says in WP:FILMRELEASE to use the earliest date and that's in the documentation for the Template:Infobox film itself. —Joeyconnick (talk) 21:53, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Joeyconnick well it says earliest release but, from way I take it, it means premiere/festival screening/etc, not neccesarily first country it's released in. But I don't think the 5th film of the Underworld franchise is worth any of us losing sleep haha... TropicAces (talk) 21:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)tropicAces

WP:FILMYEAR says Always go by the films' earliest release date, whether it be at a film festival, a world premiere, a public release, or the release in the country or countries that produced the film, excluding sneak previews or screenings. [my emphasis] That is specifically the "first country it's released in."

WP:FILMRELEASE say Release dates should therefore be restricted to the film's earliest release, whether it was at a film festival, a world premiere, or a public release, and the release date(s) in the country or countries that produced the film, excluding sneak previews or screenings. [my emphasis] Again, that is pretty much crystal clear: the date it premieres in any country is its release date. —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Joeyconnick "World premiere" is a term that means a literal premiere of a film, like The Revenant at TCL Chinese Theatre or Deadpool at Le Grande Rex, not "first place released in the world" but again, this isn't worth any of us getting worked up about... TropicAces (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)tropicAces

As the lead appears here looks correct to me. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Worldwide Gross

Posting this for User:Iamnotregistered and User:Quasar G.. I don't know what BoxOfficeMojo stated at the times when you guys were updating, but I was getting an "update in progress" page earlier on the link. It went away and as 01:08 GMT, 20170228 it stated the following for "Total Lifetime Grosses":

Market	Amount	Percentage
Domestic	$30,317,745	37.9%
Foreign	$49,682,537	62.1%
Worldwide	$80,000,282

I hope this resolves the issue. If not, please discuss it here.

Thanks, --KNHaw ^(talk) 01:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Apologies for this, Iamnotregistered, it was my mistake. Two IPs had made the same edit (changing $79.9mn to $80mn) earlier on, which, at the time, was not supported by the source. I saw that you had made the same edit later on, and didn't think to check if BoxOfficeMojo had been updated before reverting your edit (which was entirely correct) - Facepalm. Quasar G. (talk) 13:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

IMDb gave it a 5.8/10

I just read that IMDb gave this film a 5.8/10. Thought I’d add this if you would like like a link to this I’d be more than happy to help there. Danny231 (talk) 12:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:UGC audience scores are not allowed. -- 109.76.211.200 (talk) 10:17, 26 September 2021 (UTC)