Talk:Tracy Beaker

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by 84.64.144.231 in topic I’m Courtney

Notability tag

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Does this article need a notability tag? I believe the article's content already given sufficient evidence of the character's notability. Eagles247 wants it tagged, I don't. More opinions please. Dream Focus 23:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think it needs the notability tag because I don't see any evidence that this character needs its own page. In fact, I think this would be better off merged and redirected into The Story of Tracy Beaker. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
That user is not supposed to have anything to do with me anymore! Not Dreamfocus, but the one you mentioned. Androzaniamy (talk) 10:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
I believe that the user was just new page patrolling and didn't realize you wrote it. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Certainly doesn't need notability tag. Have added 6 more refs and expanded without any difficulty at all. Someone who knows the character biography better could do more. Either way, this is a notable character. I've removed the tag. WormTT · (talk) 13:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

things that could be used in the article

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Two places I found where the writer calls the character "bossy". Since that part was removed from the article as "original research" I figured I'd look to see where it could be referenced.

Dream Focus 16:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

article about series not character

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Concerning the information I removed but someone else chose to restore. It is about the series not the character.

And so it is without a backward glance that I can leave Tracy Beaker unopened, along with so many other disturbing offerings.

I don't see anywhere where he talks about the character, just the series his son is influenced by. The books and the show he comments on, not the character. Are there any quotes you can find about the character in that article? Please point out anything I missed. Dream Focus 13:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

The article currently reads:

What is said in the news article is:

Any reason to have that part in the article? Dream Focus 13:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

It could probably be better written - I'm not the best writer, but there is a fair amount of criticism of Tracy Beaker as "too adult" for children and portraying the adults as the bad guys. I'm not attached to any of the sentences, it was an editorial in the Mail, but I thought it was worth mentioning. WormTT · (talk) 13:49, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • "Tracy is a troubled, rebellious creature who vents her frustration on the well-meaning adults she encounters. The theme of the books and the television dramas is that Tracy triumphs in the end."
  • "As it is, I have found they have warped my child's emotional equilibrium and his sleep as surely as Tracy Beaker has damaged his manners."
  • "In response to Tony's Tracy Beaker outbursts, I smile and explain that he is a much-loved child, not a resident of a children's home."
  • "The bulk of Tony's most precocious outbursts, including: "No one likes me," "No one wants me" and "This is the worst thing that ever happened to me/this is the worst day of my life", are direct quotations from the books and the television drama."
(edit conflict × 2)I believe that these clearly show that the review is on the behavior of Tracy Beaker in the series. In addition, direct critical reception of the character is unlikely so reception of the series that references the character is appropriate. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
I wouldn't be directly opposed to removing the last sentence (that you just pointed out above) of the reception, but I believe the first two should be kept. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

The entire section in the article:

The section in question in the news article:

The emotions he says are too complex for him, his son, one person he is talking about, to understand. It doesn't say its repeated by "other children" as the Wikipedia article says. Dream Focus 14:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "The hypocritical Ms Wilson: Why children's writers are hugely to blame for loss of innocence | Mail Online". Dailymail.co.uk. 2008-03-04. Retrieved 2012-05-22.

I’m Courtney

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Hi 84.64.144.231 (talk) 21:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)Reply