Talk:List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones

Elvis Presley's stats in the article

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Recent changes in some of his achievements listed, particularly "Most top 40 singles" and "Most Hot 100 entries" has me wondering what the consensus is regarding how we list these. It is noted with his numbers that they include both Hot 100 and pre-Hot 100 chart data, and a few editors are wanting to focus on just his Hot 100 stats, which is not a reflection of his overall career (that started more than two years before the Hot 100 did). For the two categories I mentioned above, this may seem less of a deal when compared to the numbers of contemporary artists (like Drake and Lil Wayne), but an edit to his count for "Most number-one singles" (diff)(a recent edit I reverted, returning his count from 7 to 18) is quite another story. It is true that he had only seven (7) number-one singles on the Hot 100 itself, as indicated here, but his other number ones before August 1958 (on various pre-Hot 100 pop charts like Best Sellers, Most Played by DJs, and even the Top 100) are just as important to his career, if not more so. That being said, unless another consensus is reached to focus on only his Hot 100 chart entries, we should stick to reporting the data associated with his entire career (Hot 100 and before). MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • The article is about Billboard Hot 100 achievements, not Rock era achievements. As such, all stats in this article should focus on everyone's Hot 100 stats and reflect what Billboard currently has. This issue is not new: I went back through the talk archives and noticed a similar conversation occurred in 2006! Richard Hendricks (talk) 21:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • I'm a little confused mostly by Elvis being listed as having 18 number-one singles. For all of the other statistics Billboard would agree with it, regardless of if it predates the Hot 100, but they're very concrete on him having 17 number one singles because the single, as was issued at the time, was Don't Be Cruel/Hound Dog. I'm not really sure why non-Billboard sources are being used as the yardstick for that ranking, especially given that, predating of the Hot 100 or not, we don't really make that exception for double A-sides on any other article, for any other song, or for any other artist. If the measurement is about double A-sides counting twice for a singles ranking if both sides are big enough then acts like Elton John has a credible argument to be added to the ten club and the Beatles would probably have 21 or 22. I know it was changed a long time ago (for reasons that I'm sure made sense at the the time, though I don't know them) so everyone has gotten used to it but I don't think it should count because ultimate the primary source, the magazine itself, disputes it. That's what should matter. Thurboas (talk) 21:48:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2024

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Nicki Minaj has 75 Top 40 Hot 100 songs, not 74. Thank you. 72.75.214.231 (talk) 03:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Already done meamemg (talk) 18:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Edit for "Most total weeks in the top two"

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As of this latest chart week, "I Had Some Help" by Post Malone featuring Morgan Wallen has spent 16 total weeks in the top two (6 weeks at No. 1, 10 weeks at No. 2) which qualifies it to be included alongside "One Sweet Day", "Shape of You", "We Belong Together" and "I Gotta Feeling". Please change the table to allow "I Had Some Help" to be included. Tfa-20 (talk) 22:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tfa-20: I have added the song to the list, but I also needed to tag a citation needed to the entry, as Billboard didn't bring this up at all in their Hot 100 preview for the September 21, 2024 chart. All that was said in the preview was Post Malone’s "I Had Some Help," featuring Morgan Wallen, holds at No. 2 on the Hot 100, following six weeks at No. 1 beginning upon its debut in May. Strange how there's no mention about its top two run, but before, when "Stay" by the Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber set the mark for most weeks in the top two almost three years ago, later surpassed by "As It Was" by Harry Styles, it was certainly huge news to report. There was even a stretch where Gary Trust didn't report the songs that had the most weeks in the top 10 overall, overlooking it when "As It Was", Morgan Wallen's "Last Night", and Taylor Swift's "Cruel Summer", managed to get into the region, but now reporting how Teddy Swims's "Lose Control" has become the song in eighth place in terms of weeks in the top 10 all time. Has me wondering whether we need to reduce the number of lists shown here, because Billboard isn't consistent in reporting these milestones at times. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I wholeheartedly disagree. The lists on this page are EXTREMELY important for chronological posterity. As it is right now, "I Had Some Help" is only 4 weeks away from matching the record for most weeks at No 2. (currently held by "Stay"). The song's achievements might get a second look later on this week. Tfa-20 (talk) 00:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply