Talk:Tim Rogers (writer)/GA1

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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 19:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, why not. I'll review this one.

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments as I'm going down:

• Intro's kinda short. I'd prefer it to be about twice its length now; it's your choice whether to do this in one paragraph or two. As a minimum, I think one more sentence each about his journalism and Action Button is necessary for the intro to summarize the article.
• That being said, I'm not sure it's necessary to go this in-depth about TNNS and 10 x 8, as they're both also covered in the Action Button article. If you can't find coverage about Rogers' role in their development, cut out a lot and link to the relevant sections in the Action Button page.
• "personal and strong interest" - Is it just a strong personal interest, or is it a strong interest whose "personal" nature is somehow important here?
• "Rogers is a video games journalist[4]" - Do you really need to cite anything there? I mean, most of the sources, likely including the next two, cover this.
• "and his rock band is Large Prime Numbers" - Kind of weird phrasing. If you can't scrounge up any more information about his band, change this clause to something like "and he is a member of a rock band named Large Prime Numbers".
• Explain a bit in the body text what New Games Journalism is. Optionally, you might also add a "See also" tag to Rogers' "Video games journalism" section or an independent "See also" header.
• "considering that the Internet claims to hate [him]." - I see no evidence of this anywhere in the article. Given this fact, why highlight the quote so?
• Cave Story definitely has a story; I'd change "realizing" to "feeling" or "perceiving". (MBTI reference not intended.)
• Decide whether to italicize "ActionButton.net" and stick with it.
• Sources all look reliable and, from what I've scanned, formatted fine.
• I still don't understand why Wikipedia's so anal about living persons, but if you can't provide an image because of that, so be it. That being said, you might consider emailing him to ask for a picture you can license for use here.

Tezero (talk) 20:16, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

@Tezero, believe I've addressed everything—let me know what you think? I left the citation for "games journalist" because it isn't quite in the next two sources and because he has said at times that he doesn't think of himself as a journalist. About the pictures, it's the same story as the others—he promised me some and I'm waiting to hear back (E3 week). Thanks for the review czar ♔ 21:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. Moving on:

• "incoming alien freaks" - Neutrality? I wouldn't go any further than "incoming grotesque aliens".
• I've separated TNNS and 10 x 8 into two sections; I didn't see any reason to clump them together. It had the same awkward ring as our former (proposed?) Nintendo + Sega taskforce.
• "Rogers presented at the Indie Soapbox at GDC 2013" - Did he present the game there or something else? If the latter, what's this doing in that section?
• Everything else looks good, so ping me when you're done. Tezero (talk) 23:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

@Tezero, ping czar ♔ 23:53, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

You still never specified what Rogers was doing at the Indie Soapbox. The source doesn't say it, but I expect you could find another one... Anyway, whatever. I'll just pass this. Tezero (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)