Talk:Tili (caste)

Title of the page

The name of the caste is TILI. It should be renamed from TILLI to TILI 206849 wiki (talk) 19:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

THIS CASTE NAME IS TILI OR EITHER TILY NOT Tilli

SPELLING EROR SHOULD BE FIXED IT IS TILI OR EITHER TILY NOT Tilli PHANTOM 097y (talk) 06:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

The article title cannot be changed because "Tili" is currently a redirect to the article Dilijan. David notMD (talk) 09:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok can it be 'BENGALI Tili' instead of Tili? PHANTOM 097y (talk) 09:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

I do not know anything about this topic, so cannot have an opinion on that being a better name or not. David notMD (talk) 09:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

I KNOW THIS TOPIC AND I HAVE PROOFS AND REFRENCE WHICH CLAIM TILI CASTE AS A BENGALI TILI CASTE PHANTOM 097y (talk) 11:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done, as per naming convention! Ekdalian (talk) 15:35, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

This was a better solution than renaming Bengali Tili. David notMD (talk) 15:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

yep PHANTOM 097y (talk) 16:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

REFRENCE

How I can add this REFRENCE properly 21 June 2024 (UTC)

TILI is a mercentile caste not agrarian

Ok so I have reliable REFRENCE which States Tili as a commercial/mercentile caste not AGRAGRIAN can someone change the word AGRAGRIAN please? I can provide refrence too PHANTOM 097y (talk) 00:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Please share reliable sources here along with url and page number. Ekdalian (talk) 09:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

https://archive.org/details/dli.calcutta.03995/page/41/mode/1up?q=+Tili

Here in Page no 42 claims Tili as a commercia/mercentile caste

It is CALCUTTA UNIVERSITY REPORT PHANTOM 097y (talk) 13:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you please mention who is the (reliable) author of this source? Ekdalian (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Prafulla Chandra Ray (1861 – 1944) PHANTOM 097y (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

It is obvious that it must be a Raj era source originally, which has been reprinted! Ekdalian (talk) 04:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

MENTION

Ramkrishna Mukherjee where he mentioned Bengali Teli change their caste Teli to Tili but actually,if we see from Britishers original census we can see that TELI and Tili are separate and if we see the Bengali SCRIPTURES like chandipuran, mangalpuran, BRHAMAN HALIYUDH SHARVASIYA(this literature were from 15th-16th century) we can find Teli doesn't have connection to Tili.some modern historians confused with TELI which is seperate from Teli. I think his information is not a reliable one it is disputed actually. I have so many proofs (English Bengali both) WHICH states Tili and TELI is seperate caste there is no connection with each other PHANTOM 097y (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

You have probably not yet understood our policies. The information is not only reliably sourced, but also attributed to the author. We have clearly mentioned that this is the opinion of the author! Ekdalian (talk) 17:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

In 495 page it is clearly mentioned that Tili is a high caste, that's why I told you Tili is a middle caste or not this is still debatable https://archive.org/details/dli.calcutta.05838 PHANTOM 097y (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Again, who is the reliable author here? I have provided two reliable sources categorizing them as a middle or intermediate caste. Moreover, according to all reliable sources, Bengal had only three higher castes; read Baidya for more information! Ekdalian (talk) 04:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

It is a study work bruh PHANTOM 097y (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I can understand, but we need reliable authors in such articles. Ekdalian (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok I will find it soon 🙏 PHANTOM 097y (talk) 08:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

bro in some english documents it is ALSO mentioned that Kayastha and vaidya which is also called upper caste categories into middle caste and in some these two categories as upper caste this same situation happens to Tili caste.

I will do research on it and I will provide you reliable author with non-british Raj documents PHANTOM 097y (talk) 08:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)