Talk:Peter Swan (footballer, born 1966)/GA1
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Latest comment: 12 years ago by EchetusXe in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: AGK (talk · contribs) 00:40, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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edit- Well-written:
- Verifiable with no original research:
- Broad in its coverage:
- Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
- Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
- Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
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(a) (major aspects) | The reviewer has no notes here. | Pass |
(b) (focused) | The reviewer has no notes here. | Pass |
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Article does not comply with the requirement that content be presented neutrally: reads as unduly flattering of the subject. | Fail |
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The reviewer has no notes here. | Pass |
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On hold | On hold pending the response of the requester of the review, but leaning towards failing the review unless the issues outlined above can be rebutted or corrected. I hope my feedback has been helpful so far, and I am watching this page and will see any response. AGK [•] 00:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC) |
- I really do not see how the article is 'unduly flattering'. It shows him to be less than a model professional (boozing sessions before a big game), mentions him costing Port Vale promotion by getting sent off at Wembley, his concealing evidence to pass a medical examination he should have failed (maybe that counts as fraud, I don't know), refusing to play (similar to Carlos Tevez), openly admitting he signed for clubs "for the money" as opposed to sporting ambition, disrupting training sessions, getting into scuffles with teammates, disrespecting managers, 'delight' at his team being relegated, sent off ten times in his career, playing for Rothwell Town in 1988 (clear breach of his Leeds contract and a sackable offence), his numerous unsuccessful attempts at business dealings post-retirement, even the fact that his autobiography gets his own stats wrong!
- The article shows that managers who rated Swan tended to lose their jobs, and those that did not get along with him went on to achieve enormous success (Howard Wilkinson & Neil Warnock). However to explicitly state this would be original research. I am happy to rewrite any sentences you think are unduly complimentary or unclear for readers unfamiliar with the player or the sport in general--EchetusXe 12:44, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough; I may have mistaken the biographical tone for flattery. If you could reconsider my other remarks, I'll look again at the tone, and we can revisit the review in a few days. Thanks for responding. Regards, AGK [•] 13:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, great. Any 'in world' terms or turns of phrase can be changed or linked to an appropriate article.--EchetusXe 14:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough; I may have mistaken the biographical tone for flattery. If you could reconsider my other remarks, I'll look again at the tone, and we can revisit the review in a few days. Thanks for responding. Regards, AGK [•] 13:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Any further comments? Neither page has been touched in two weeks. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm happy with the article unless there are any specific concerns anyone has?--EchetusXe 13:13, 15 December 2011 (UTC)