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Original research and possible conflict of interest

Controlofworkspecialist has twice reverted removal of challenged, tagged, uncited material, some of which reads like advertising or advocacy for product, and has so far failed to respond to requests to discuss the matter or provide references for the challenged claims. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 15:55, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

I have twice responded to you on my user talk page. As I mentioned, digital control of work is a highly specialized niche for which little "external research" is available, for it is an augmentation of the maintenance process. Your unfounded assertions are limiting my ability to learn how to use Wikipedia correctly (I'm a novice at this and it's a complicated system), and I've removed all company specific names from the article and referenced external sources where possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Controlofworkspecialist (talk • contribs) 16:02, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes Controlofworkspecialist, you eventually responded to my messages. Thank you for that. One of the problems is that the material you added to the article Permit To Work is not directly related to the topic Permit to Work, and most of it should probably removed as off topic even if it was referenced appropriately.

I have recommended that you read the information provided as linked on your talk page, which should give you a much better idea of what Wikipedia is actually about. It also specifies some of the things that Wikipedia is not.

I also recommended that you create an article on the topic of Control of Work, or if you prefer, and if it is more appropriate, Digital Control of Work, where the material you added to Permit to Work should be more appropriate, assuming that it can be properly referenced.

Please try to understand that the content of any article must be within the reasonable bounds of the topic scope, and you have not yet shown any evidence that this is the case here. There are no references at all in the three sections referring to CoW, so there is no way of verifying whether it is in scope or that it is not original research.

If there are no reliable references for a topic there can be no article on Wikipedia. However I think there may well be sufficient references to establish notability if you take the trouble to look for them. I left a URL on your talk page which may be appropriate.

Also, please learn to sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes ~~~~, which will automatically identify you by your username. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 12:20, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

What is this digital COW that is mentioned in this article? It appears to be a proprietary software product that does a part of a PTW system. It doesn't appear necessary or appropriate for a Wikipedia article about PTW. In which case, these parts should be removed. If COW is a software product that is notable in its own right, then it would justify its own Wikipedia article. (From a quick look around the net, it seems to me that it is not notable.) --Pakaraki (talk) 01:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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