Talk:My Darlin' (Miley Cyrus song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:54, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Prose

Lead

• Fix the redirect to the rapper "Future" in infobox

• The link goes through fine for me, or am I missing something?

• You don't need to mention Future's nationality in the opening sentence "My Darlin' is a song by American recording artist Miley Cyrus featuring American rapper Future".

•  Done

• The "Future" link needs to be corrected.

• Same thing here, unless I accidentally missed something.

•  Done, my mistake!

Background and composition

• The entire first paragraph belongs in the Bangerz album page, not here.

•  Done

• The first sentence of the second paragraph would read better as something like "Cyrus, Future, Jeremih, Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller, and Ben E. King co-wrote "My Darlin'" with producers Mike Will Made It, P-Nasty, and Tyler Same Johnson."

•  Done

• The section is better off simply titled "Composition"

• Some of the independent information I added to the article actually gives some background behind the Miley/Future collaboration, so if it's alright with you I think that the existing title should remain.

• Better to include independent information, so now the section can keep that title.

Critical reception

• Fix the redirect to the "Stand by Me" song in "pimped-up version of Ben E. King's 'Stand By Me'."

•  Done

• Per MOS:PUNCT and MOS:QUOTEMARKS "We gon’ make a movie, movie / And it’s gon’ be in 3D, 3D." should be "We gon' make a movie, movie / And it's gon' be in 3D, 3D."

•  Done

Sourcing

Critical reception

• More MOS:QUOTEMARKS errors- "Miley Cyrus’ “Bangerz” Reviewed: “My Darlin’”" should be "Miley Cyrus' Bangerz Reviewed: "My Darlin'""

•  Done

Live performances

• More MOS:QUOTEMARKS errors- "Miley Cyrus’ Demented ‘Bangerz’ Tour Is A Candy-Colored Thrill Ride: Opening Night Review" should be "Miley Cyrus' Demented 'Bangerz' Tour Is A Candy-Colored Thrill Ride: Opening Night Review"

•  Done

Neutrality

• No problems here

Coverage

• Too limited. Try finding material from reliable third-party sources independent of the Bangerz album that provide significant (in-depth) coverage of the song and use those. So far, only one source (ref#10) is independent of the album, and even that only talks about the song briefly. The tour ref only mentions it briefly. If this song gets significant attention from public performances and such (be it praise or controversy), go into that.

• As a non-single album track, it was a little difficult to find independent sources for the track itself. However, I was lucky enough to find two that added a decent amount to the article, and I've also included several more "in-album" reviews that I think give the article a little more meat.

• While it often is more difficult to find independent information on non-singles, remember that a song must have significant independent coverage from multiple reliable third-party sources per WP:GNG and WP:NSONGS, and that songs that can't be extended beyond stubs should not have their own articles. The Spin ref you added does give it coverage independent of the album, but is only medium-depth. Keep looking.

• I went through several pages of Google results for information about the track, and while I didn't find completely separate articles about it, I did uncover several more reviews of the album that put a bit more weight on their reviews of "My Darlin'". With these articles, I was able to triple the size of the "Critical reception" section, and the song now appears notable in its own right for being the "dark horse" from Bangerz, if you will!

• Even of not completely dedicated to the song, WP:NSONGS indicates notable coverage of songs excludes that from album reviews. Artists/producers/composers/lyricists/etc. talking about their own work doesn't count as notable coverage either. The Shake analysis gives substantial coverage, kudos for finding that. Just find at least one more reliable third-party (not affiliated with creation) source giving significant coverage, and we're good to go. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 17:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

• I found one article from Slant that discusses the laziness of the lyrics "I can't breathe without you, without you as mine." I thought that it was pretty interesting that of all of Miley's songs, he chose to connect "My Darlin'" with a pretty in-depth analysis of a "problem" that is commonly seen throughout pop music. Will this suffice as a third-party source, since it is in no way connected to an album review and associates the song with heavy commentary?

• That will do since it gives a more-than-just-medium-depth level of coverage (though indirectly in this case) and criticizing the song. Just a note- the link is actually from Slate. If you more articles like that and Shake, by all means add them. Now passing. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 20:11, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Stability

• No problems here

GA Result

• If the above is addressed within the next seven days, I will pass the GAN. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:54, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for your review! If there is anything else that needs to be addressed, by all means let me know and I will be happy to fix them! WikiRedactor (talk) 19:53, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

• Not a problem. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC)