Talk:MDN Web Docs
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Student Editing
editThis article is currently part of an assignment and is seeing edits that don't meet with Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. Attempts to discuss this with the student on their Talk page have not been answered and any edits made to make the article are just edited back to the original content. Specifically, this page continues to see edits that:
- Add external links to the MDN inside the body of the article WP:EL instead of links that point to available Wikipedia articles.
- Use peacock/promotional language WP:PEACOCK
- Contain unnecessary, detailed explanation of what HTML5, Javascript and Firefox are that covered in great depth in the HTML5, Javascript and Firefox articles.
- (new) Copy-paste content from the MDN site: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Marketplace WP:COPYVIO.
Some of those issues are definitely something that may end up having some give-and-take on it with a discussion that results in consensus. Some of it, copy/paste WP:COPYVIO for example, seems considerably less likely to be changed with conversation. Regardless, this conversation isn't happening here or on the editor's Talk page. If you're considering reverting the edits that were made to address the above issues, please join the conversation here and discuss first. Thanks, Stesmo (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Reply to student editing
editI am only editing this article as a part of an assingment, and I need to use 10 legimitate sorces such as external links in order to provide information. I understand that I cannot copy the same text from other websites and that I should use my own words, but I still need to include the websites to my reference list. There isn't much information on the internet about the mozilla developer network, so I just thought that I should add some information about what is the actual mozzila network providing and containing ( such as HTML5, Mozilla Firefox, JavaScript etc.). I didn't want to add much information for each of the headings, just a few, and then link them to their own WIKIPEDIA pages. I will try to change the text and replace it with your own words, but the sky can keep information sources (MDN website and others) and the headings(or at least some of them). AlexandraSandu (talk) 20:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for coming to the Talk page, AlexandraSandu!
- Your requirement for "legitimate sources" hopefully matches with Wikipedia's view on reliable, third-party, published sources (click here for more info). If you're referring to the External Links (links that go outside of Wikipedia), those shouldn't be in the body of the article and aren't the same thing as references or citations. Usually, there are few External Links in an article while there may be dozens or hundreds of references and sources (in the really big articles).
- One of the problem you seem to be facing here with this assignment is "There isn't much information on the internet about the mozilla developer network". Wikipedia is mostly interested in things that can be verified in books, newspapers, magazines, online, etc. This is briefly covered at Wikipedia:Training/For_students/No_original_research and in detail at WP:NOR. If there isn't information about MDN coming from outside of MDN itself, perhaps that information shouldn't be in the Wikipedia article.
- Part of verifying what is being added is where the source comes from; if it is coming from the company/person involved, it may not be correct or may be one-sided. So, Wikipedia prefers sources that aren't coming from the company or people being written about (not from Press Releases, the MDN website, CEO's blog posts, etc.). And, your edits are more likely to survive other editors if the claims / facts can be backed up with reliable, third-party, published sources.
- I'm not sure any of this will help you in your assignment, but I hope you can find a way to complete your assignment while still working within the Wikipedia policies and guidelines as we try to improve Wikipedia. Good luck! Thanks, Stesmo (talk) 21:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Outdated logo
editThe logo used on the article is now outdated. The latest logos used are available here, but it needs extensive cropping to use only one logo of them.
I am not sure about the license of these images, but they might be free (as in freedom). NasssaNser (talk/edits) 10:05, 16 December 2016 (UTC)