Talk:Caesars Superdome

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Interior pictures

Does anyone know where interior pictures of the stadium could be obtained? (Ones that aren't protected by copyright, etc. that is.) Right now the article has no photos of the inside of the stadium; there should be at least one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.186.107 (talk) 17:51, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Katrina news coverage errors

• Though the current staff my believe that no engineering study was ever performed - the studies were made and widely covered at the time of the domes construction.
• The roof has not been damaged to the extent the news media would have you believe - what was peeled away is a protective membrane, analogous to the shingles on a suburban home. The holes, of which much has been made, are where ventilators have been ripped away, not failures of the roof structure.

Elde 17:43, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Page history

What happened to the rest of the Talk history? Did someone archive incorrectly? Johntex 19:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

No. It would be in the History. -- RattleMan 06:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

But it isn't. If you click on the History tab here, the earliest history is 30 August 2005. There was discussion here from before that. Johntex 16:22, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Rape

Please do not remove mention of the reported and confirmed rapes at the Rapedome. Thank you.

• Unless you can provide evidence the information about rapes at the Superdome is BS.Gateman1997 18:35, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

• • The BBC at least have reported several reported cases of rape, though nowhere have I seen the monicker 'rapedome' --82.46.55.123 18:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
    • True there have been a few rapes reported, but no confirmed cases at the Superdome.Gateman1997 18:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
      • added the fact there have been unconfirmed reports of rape from numerous sources - anon.

Rapedome is way too much of a word of mouth thing. I don't see any media using that name, and thus cannot be confirmed.

• • • • • It now appears that there have been no confirmed rapes in the Superdome

That is pretty damn weird. If people just decided to concoct these incidents of rape for whatever twisted reason, I pity the way society has turned out. Still, I doubt that all of these different reports would totally be lies. I think the police chief is trying to cover his ass for the breakdowns in law enforcement during the crisis.

[1]137.110.192.46 09:00, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

I think the issue of the reports of rapes and crimes needs to be dealt with in much more detail here. From what I've read, it seems that although the conditions in the Superdome were extremely unpleasant (in terms of sanitation, comfort, information, temperature) and people were understandably frightened, the evidence shows that there were no marauding gangs, no rape and drug-selling zones in the upper galleries (or anywhere else). The issue is about both rape and other non-sexual forms of violent crime. I think that to say "there is no confirmed evidence" or that "there is no evidence of" doesn't go far enough. Most of the evidence for the existence of these crimes was based on hearsay, both from within the Dome and from outsiders. When additional National Guard (?) arrived after a few days and expected to find chaos, they instead found filthy toilets and tired people but no chaos.

As one of the discussion posts below mentions, it seems that reports of widespread violence were based on people's understandable fears but NOT on actual incidents. This should be addressed, either in this aricle or in one linked to it, because 1) many people still believe there is good evidence for mass rapes, 2) for many people these stories of mass rape segue into anxieties about sex and violence of African Americans and 3) the story illustrates the rapidity with which urban legends can start. Interlingua 14:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with your observation. Since you've read about this subject I invite you to either make the improvements yourself or share your sources with your fellow editors so that we can find the right evidence to cite. --Dystopos 14:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

It would seem that the Superdome, full of scared people under rapidly deteriorating conditions and lacking any authoritative communications, would be fertile ground for urban legends and mass hysteria to fester. That isn't to say that crimes or rapes were not committed, but the stories aren't necessarily "twisted concoctions" or particularly surprising either way. Dystopos 04:32, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Torn down?

All I can find to lend any shred of credence to this is one sentence on a KSAT (San Antionio ABC station) report. [2]. The latest report (2:03 PM, Sept. 6) from Saints owner Tom Benson makes no reference to the condition of the dome following this season. [3]. Can someone find a source for this? I find it unlikely that a full engineering assessment has been performed. Dystopos 23:35, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

• I just found it on CNN's front page. A state official has been quoted as saying it will likely be torn down.Gateman1997 23:38, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
• The first report that it was probably going to be torn down was by Ted Koppel on ABC Monday night. CNN began reporting it Tuesday afternoon. Autiger 05:56, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Supplies in Superdome for Katrina, 7 trucks mre 3 trucks water

apparently there were 7 truckloads of MREs there. the national guard had supplies there to provide food and water for 15,000 people for 3 days on the august 28th. as for wether to believe quotes attributed to the deputy director of the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Emergency Preparedness as reported by the times picayune, or the "drudge report"... http://nola.live.advance.net/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html

Temporarily closed...

Shoudln't the Superdome be listed as "Temporarily Closed", considering that all the tennants are currently finding new homes BECAUSE the Superdome is unuseable? Dknights411 16:04, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

• Not until that temp home has been identified. As of right now the SD is still listed as their home field which means it is technically still open.Gateman1997 16:21, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
• Not according to the New Orleans Saints article. I was just trying to keep some consistancy. Dknights411 17:27, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
• That article has jumped the gun I believe.Gateman1997 17:31, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Exterior sources should be considered in this decision - not other 'pedia articles. Consistency is less important than accuracy.Elde 00:52, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
    • You are of course correct. However the situation has changed since this discussion began. The new home for two of the three present tennants has been identified.Gateman1997 00:58, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
      • I put this in the category Defunct American football venues. I felt it was appropriate because they're not playing football there until at least next year.

Be demolished?

What is the source for "The Superdome, which will soon be demolished"? Surely for something like that there are some announcements and press releases. (SEWilco 14:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC))

Checking the Superdome official site: "Doug Thornton, SMG Regional Vice President, says contrary to press reports that it is premature to say if the dome will be torn down, or if it can be rebuilt or restored. A decision on whether the dome can be saved is weeks away, after a team of experts can make an assessment. Even that step will be delayed until the inside can be cleaned. The majority of Superdome damage is from roof problems and water infiltration." [4] (SEWilco 14:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC))

This section needs a general overhaul, since restoration is underway. Check http://www.superdome.com/uploads/LASuperdomeN.O.ArenaRestorationUpdate.pdf and the other PDFs on the official site for better info. --Jkonrath 22:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

MLB in the Superdome?

During the planning/building of the Superdome, was there ever any serious talk of trying to get a Major League Baseball team in New Orleans? Darwin's Bulldog 09:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Five years later?

The article says the Louisiana Governor said "I want one of these only bigger" (referring to the Houston Astrodome) in 1967 and that he got his wish five years later. But then, two paragraphs down from that, it says construction on the Superdome began in 1971 and was completed in 1975. As I read it, he got his wish eight years later, not five. --Smithfarm 09:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Succession boxes?

IMHO, the new succession boxes for the various occupants look awful, clutter the article and are an inappropriation representation of this particular information. Succession boxes make more sense for frequently changing, long-lined occurances; as a general rule, a change in home stadia is a pretty rare event. In this case, the change was only temporary, driven by an external event. Thoughts, comments? AUTiger ʃ ^talk/_work 15:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Article says Tulane stadium condemned 1975?

The New Orleans Saints opened the 1975 NFL season at the Superdome. Tulane Stadium, which had served as the Saint's first home and the city's primary stadium, was condemned on the day the Superdome opened.

The John Curtis Patriots played the last game ever played in Tulane Stadium in 1978 when the Patriots beat Jonesboro-Hodge 40-0 in the State Championship final.

Sixofone 07:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Baseball in the Superdome

I think the article should mention how there are sometimes LSU-Tulane baseball games played in the Superdome or any other baseball games played there. 24.252.65.147 22:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree, NCAA baseball should also be included. And, in 1992, the Superdome hosted the SEC Baseball Conference Tournament. See here on page 111 under "Conference Tournament History - 1992 SEC Tournament." --BZA99 (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Super Bowl IX?

I saw on this page (and heard on a highlight film from the same game) that had the Superdome been completed in time for that game, it would have been held there instead of Tulane Stadium. Correct? WAVY 10 21:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

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Accuracy dispute of BCS National Championship Game venues

I am disputing over the venue dates after 2010 over these 4 stadiums as the BCS contract appears to be up in 2010 but the templates go to 2018. The discussion can be seen at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#BCS Stadium Templates trough 2018 Sawblade05 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 22:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC) That wasn't an issue on this page. AUTiger » talk 00:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

A boxing venue

I added Category:Boxing venue to the article, because there are 2 fights in Category:Boxing fights which were held there; Carnival of Champions, and one known as the 'No Mas' fight - I dont recall the name of the article. You may want to add details of these fights to the section that deals with notable events held at the Superdome. Cheers. Willy turner (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The 'No Mas' fight was Leonard-Duran II Willy turner (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Katrina event

Should I add to major events Huricane Katrina? Wendy's the Restraunt (talk) 21:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

NCAA Basketball policy

As far as I know, the Superdome's basketball configuration has always placed the half-court line of the basketball court at the 50 yard line of the football field, as opposed to other facilities where the basketball court was in an end zone. One of the Superdome's sideline lower decks can be rolled out into the center of the stadium to bring it closer to a basketball court placed along the other sideline. How exactly would thin interact with the NCAA policy noted in the article? Ilikefish0 (talk) 23:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Acoustics

I didn't see anything in this article about the acoustics of the Superdome. There's a decent article here that goes into why the Superdome is one of the noisiest venues (120 decibels) and how that translates to a home field advantage. Gobonobo ^{T C} 23:23, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Momentum Turf added in 2004

I think the change from Astroturf to Momentum Turf came in 2004, not 2006, based on newspaper article previews like this one from 2004. It talks about the new Momentum Turf surface being the third different surface for the Superdome "in as many years."

It seems likely that a new surface did need to be installed in 2006 as well after the hurricane damage, but that installation may not have changed the type of turf used.

--65.185.17.187 (talk) 18:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Premature move

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The result of the move request was: moved by Infrogmation (talk · contribs) per common name. (non-admin housekeeping closure) Jenks24 (talk) 04:18, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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Mercedes-Benz Superdome → Louisiana Superdome – I noticed that this article was recently moved to a new name. However, I should point out that the Mercedes-Benz naming rights have only been announced. It is still officially the Louisiana Superdome. The official renaming will NOT take place until October 23: "The name change take effect Oct. 23 when the Saints face the Indianapolis Colts on NBC's Sunday Night Football".[5] Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Premature indeed. It is not yet called that, neither officially nor commonly. Moved back to the actual name. Infrogmation (talk) 04:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

• Comment seems to have been done. 65.94.77.207 (talk) 04:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
• Support in any case, since I don't see a reason why we should advertise Mercedes Benz. 65.94.77.207 (talk) 04:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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Mardi Grass vs AstroTurf

The article referred to the original playing surface in the Superdome as "AstroTurf." It was not AstroTurf, which was developed by Monsanto and used in the Astrodome in Houston. Mardi Grass was also manufactured by Monsanto, but was a different product with a different design and composition.

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Move

this needs to be move to Mercedes-Benz Superdome — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.134.44 (talk) 13:05, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The new name will not take effect until October 23, when the next New Orleans saints Game will be played. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

• Now that the move-protection has expired, I will no longer oppose any premature page moves. More reliable sources seem to be using the new name now, especially when mentioning the permanent lightshow that will be unveiled in less than 24 hours.[6] Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Removal of BioDistrict and Redlinks in general

I've reverted this page to remove the biodistrict redlink. Please do not use the wiki as a promotion tool. Also adding redlinks is almost always a poor practice. Sore bluto (talk) 22:36, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

AAU

could add info about the AAU (ameteur athletic association) had a summer AAU junior olympic games with the superdome being one of the main venues. 163.40.12.37 (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

new orleans 1996. I'm not sure about 2005. Look at the AAU Junior Olympyic Games article under sub-heading Locations. 163.40.12.37 (talk) 18:47, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

needs redirect added to aau junior olympic games 163.40.12.37 (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

ok, i cna't make it work. type it in to the search box, it shows up. 163.40.12.37 (talk) 18:51, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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Name, July 2021 -- it is still the Louisiana Superdome

I note that there have already been some eager suggestions to move the article to "Caesars Superdome". Per [7] Louisiana legislature "Joint Legislative Committee on Budget met to approve the facility's naming rights addressed in Louisiana Statue (La. R.S. 51:293.1B). The statute authorized the LSED "to sell or transfer the right to designate and use an alternative name to refer to the Louisiana Superdome. The committee agreed to the name as the 'Caesars Superdome.'" So note that it continues to legally be the Louisiana Superdome; "Caesar's Superdome" is stated to be an "alternative name". -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:52, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

• The "alternative name" thing is just legalese. The legislation approving the name "Mercedes-Benz Superdome" also called that name an "alternative name". So, if this article called it the "Mercedes-Benz Superdome" then, it is just as appropriate to refer to it as the "Caesars Superdome" now. As I write this comment, crews are putting the "Caesars Superdome" signage on the building. Fish Man (talk) 16:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • "The Louisiana Superdome" remains the permanent legal name of the structure; others are corporate advertising names. If some editors think it very important to give free advertising on Wikipedia by repeatedly moving the article to whatever the Superdome's current commercial marketing affiliation is, I won't object; just noting the facts for the record. I passed by the Superdome earlier today; the big "Mercedes-Benz" lettering and logo on the side of the building are down, but no "Ceasars" lettering is up yet; several smaller "Mercedes-Benz" signs on the parking garage part of the building are still up. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Wouldn't WP:COMMONNAME actually be in favor of Caesars Superdome? Like Fish Man stated, Louisiana Superdome has always been the legal name of the Superdome, but the common name for it since 2011 was always the Merecedes-Benz Superdome. Highly doubtful that's to change now that they've pretty much admitted "yeah, Louisiana Superdome was always the name, legally that is". All official sources and announcers will call it either "Caesars Superdome" or "the Superdome" going forward. I don't see how having a sponsor name would affect this rule. Arrowhead Stadium wasn't changed because that's the common (shortened) name for the stadium and rolls off the tongue and is more visually pleasing in reliable sources than the long sponsor title "GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium".--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 04:40, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
      • Actually, per common practice (especially in the UK, where aversions to stadium naming rights are a bit more pronounced; see the kerfuffle about St James' Park, though the fact this also involved a sister company of the team's owner to "showcase" the idea of naming rights was probably a factor too), if a venue has a non-sponsored name that is historical and predominant, it usually passes muster as a common name. I'd support a move to Louisiana Superdome, with the lead identifying it as "The Louisiana Superdome (branded as Caesars Superdome for naming rights reasons)". ViperSnake151  Talk  23:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

        Support move to Louisiana Superdome, for what it's worth. PK-WIKI (talk) 09:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

      • Strongly oppose, what would that make the other sponsored stadiums? Some of them are silently legally its original name. We should avoid putting other stadiums in this branding name limbo and just call them what they officially are recognized as. The Superdome will have Caesars branding everywhere, the sources and announcers will address the Superdome with the name, too. It doesn't make any sense to go against this officially and widely recognized brand name.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 01:38, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

It depends on whether the original name remains in frequent use. No one ever called it the O.co Coliseum unless they were contractually required to. To locals it has always been the Oakland Coliseum or just the Coliseum. See also Talk:Oakland_Coliseum#Requested_move_20_May_2021. Wikipedia's goals are not to respect and recognize commercial sponsorship rights. Wikipedia's goal is to build an encyclopedia. ViperSnake151  Talk  15:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Well after 2 full seasons its safe to say by now that Caesars Superdome is not only the official name, but the common name. Discussion closed.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 05:49, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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