Talk:List of people declared personae non gratae in Azerbaijan

Armenian citizens

Yerevanci, first see WP:BRD and discuss before adding disputed information. Then, the information added by you doesn't show true situation. There is no any law in Azerbaijan saying that "Armenian citizens are non grate in Azerbaijan". For example, in 2010 Garegin II visited Azerbaijan[1]. In 2011 Armenian boxers (represented Armenia) took part in AIBA World Boxing Championships in Baku (here is their names and results). In 2012 Raffi Hovhannisyan visited Baku[2]. As you can see Azerbaijan didn't ban the entry of these Armenian citizens. --Interfase (talk) 22:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

We are talking about the de facto situation here. Everyone knows that Armenian can't go to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis can't go to Armenia. In the 20-year period, there are only a few exceptions, some of them you listed above. And why are you telling me to see BRD, when it's you who has a problem with the sources?

The National Conference on Soviet Jewry source [3] says:

"The two nations are still technically at war, and citizens of the Republic of Armenia are forbidden from entering into Azerbaijan."

You have a problem with the NCSJ source? Start a discussion at the WP:RS. --Երևանցի ^talk 23:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

No, we are talking about the people declared personae non gratae in Azerbaijan. But Armenian citizens didn't declared so. I know that Azerbaijan and Armenia are still technically at war, and visits of Armenian citizens into Azerbaijan are problematic, either visits of Azerbaijani citizens into Armenia. But Azerbaijan didn't ban visits for all citizens of Armenia, and Armenian citizens visited Azerbaijan when it's necessary (examples above). We could write about the curent cituation in the article about Karabakh war, or Azerbaijan-Armenia relations (showing and information about the visits above), but this article is about the people declared personae non gratae officialy. --Interfase (talk) 06:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I propose deleting almost all the names from this page, it merely duplicates the list on the Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Only if there is something notable in secondary sources about the decision by the Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs would a particular person be named. I further propose a title change to reflect the fact that the subject is entirely to do with entry to the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic by individuals (mostly journalists or politicians) Azerbaijan considers notable enough to issue a retaliatory response against. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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Unreliable sources

Steverci, you've done nothing but defend non-RS sources being used for such a controversial topic that specifically requires reliable sources. Usage of non-reliable Armenia-based media, as well as Armenian government-owned media outlets is quite dishonest in this regard. If you have third-party sources, even Azatutyun, and reliable sources like CivilNet, go for it. But afromentioned unreliable sources, like Asbarez, PanArmenian, Tert.am, ArmenPress, or the Armenian Public Radio, shall be omitted. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 06:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Much of what is here isn't controversial info to require extraordinary sources, except maybe some of the Cyprus Turkish politicians, see here. Hemşinli çocuk 01:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

In case you hadn't noticed, this article is also related to Armenia and the Republic of Artsakh, and the MFA of Azerbaijan statement in the article even confirms this. None of those Armenian sources are listed as perennial sources, and nothing they said is even contested. It seems like you just want to trim the list as much as you can. Do you have any reliable sources saying these people haven't been declared personae non gratae? --Steverci (talk) 04:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Solavirum You've removed quite a bit, it might be worth to step back and rather tag those you have concerns with rather than remove everything all at once. I was surprised you even removed Alexander Lapshin, the best known case, with it's own article full of reliable sources. That definitely must have been a mistake, and I don't think the only mistake. I don't think blacklisting is a particularly controversial topic that is in dispute; Or is there a case where Armenia claims a blacklisted person, that Azerbaijan however disputes? Maidyouneed (talk) 06:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Maidyouneed, I could use {{cn}} for the ones that have non-RS citations. I'm not well familiar with the topic, but the usage of local Armenian media for a conflicting topic isn't that appropriate. Instead, English and Russian-language sources seem to be better in such situation. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 08:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Just to notify Steverci and Ermenermin, I've retained the list, though tagged the ones without any particular RS. I hope it is okay now. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 17:09, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Stop edit warring, Steverci. Your editorial behavior is getting out of hand at this point. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 08:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 10 July 2021

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The result of the move request was: no consensus at this time. (closed by non-admin page mover) SkyWarrior 04:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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List of people declared personae non gratae in Azerbaijan → List of people banned from entering Azerbaijan – WP:CONSISTENCY with List of people banned from entering Australia and the similar lists for Ukraine and the United Kingdom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. Jack Frost (talk) 03:40, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Sources in the article use "personae non gratae". Sincerely, Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 17:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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