Talk:Lada (mythology)

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Latest comment: 3 years ago by Sławobóg in topic September 2021

Etymology

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Lada, Lado, mLad, vLad, vLada means "young, ruling one". It was a goddess depicted as a white swan, wife of Svarog and mother of Zorya or Danica, this is Irish Danu or Vedic Saraswati (this is Zorya-Sveta in Slavic); all of them were always depicted with white wings and as a white bird, swan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.77.212 (talk) 22:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Here I should meantion a lie:

"Vid, in which one can easily recognise the name of Svetovid, a major Slavic god of war, prophecies "

Svetovid was the main god, from him came 1. Man - Čelovek (this is "Forehead" or Čelo + Vek = "era", this is Vedic Yuga (transliteration into Slavic is Vyuga, Vyuka, Vijek; Vek or "Era"). He is Shiva, or "White (Sveti (in sanskrit as Sveta or Zveta; "white") or "worldly") Seer (Vid)... "from his tears (when he was "sleeping" (or in Vedas: "when Shiva was in Samadhi state - meditation)) came 1. human to planet Earth (which "is a little sand/stone in a great Sea, ... where everything stood still if you put there" ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.77.212 (talk) 22:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Pure OR. Zezen (talk) 10:19, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Here RS:


Etymological meaning – obscure [see PRETTY, 3A.3, p. 127] Structural meaning ‘arranged in a row, well-ordered’ (ut supra) The adjective *ladьnъ may have a double formal motivation because it may be a derivative both of the noun *ladъ as well as of the verb *laditi. However, it is only in single instances that we may define this motivation on the basis of the semantics of adjectives (see: Innovative meanings). The meanings based on continuants ‘well-ordered’ > ‘pretty,’ ‘good’ (Eastern), ‘strapping, shapely’ The majority of the continuants of *ladьnъ indicate the structural meaning of ‘well-arranged/put together, well-ordered,’ which refers primarily to inanimate objects.

From: The Development of Words Across Centuries. An Outline of a ... (online)

Sorry for the ugly paste from PDF. Zezen (talk) 10:34, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Adding Dlugosz

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See Jana Długosza Roczniki czyli Kroniki sławnego Królestwa Polskiego ... - probably the first mention by name, 15c. Zezen (talk) 10:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

September 2021

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This article is full of fakelore and it has good article status!!! Authenticity = of Lada is rejected by 99% of modern scholars. This article quotes some 1) old books that just copied random stuff from 19th century Russia, 2) sources that are uncritical, are "dictionaries" that describe deities and have no references or proofs for their claims, just repeat stuff from older books. There is other misinformation here as well: "Polish twin deities Zizilia and Didilia" are just different spelling for Dzidzilela - another pseudo-goddess mentioned by Długosz, Kupala is not deity, same with Kostroma. I'm replacing this article with a new one. Sławobóg (talk) 22:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I've restored the previous article. If you want to dispute the reliability of the sources cited, then please cite reliable sources of your own that present a contrary view. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sławobóg, I've restored most of your additions since they seem carefully sourced and I'm not in a position to dispute the sources' reliability. However, statements like "The only 'authentic' sources mentioning the deity of Lada/Lado are the Gniezno Sermons" and "East Slavic sources cannot be considered independent sources either" are opinions and need attribution. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hello! I chose this article for my mythology class and I am excited to add onto this project. One question I would like to pose is "How does the twin reciprocal of Lada affect our world in terms of fertility?" Cactusblossom1 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Cactusblossom1:! You picked the wrong article and the wrong time. The article is now spreading fakelore because its author does not know the subject he is writing about. The vast majority of modern researchers consider Lada to be a goddess who was never really worshipped either by the Slavs or the Balts. The historicity of the twins (Lel and Polel) is also very questionable. Here I'm explainign why this article is bad: Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Lada_(mythology). Sławobóg (talk) 11:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply