Talk:Kill Bill: Volume 2
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Title
editWe give two different titles for the movie: Kill Bill Volume 2 and Kill Bill: Volume 2. A movie only has one title. It can't be both. Let's find cites and see which is the official title. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Plot edit
editI'd edited the plot to include a key bridge to the next paragraph, as well as to describe an important plot point. It was reverted in good faith due to excess detail. I'd suggest that the edit should stay due to the importance of the described scene, the bridge to understand the next paragraph, and to include that the flashback was a result of the Bride, after a minute of panic, realizing that not only would she get out of the coffin but that she would carry on with her mission. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:56, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't agree. It's excess detail for stuff that can be sufficiently summarised in fewer words. Stuff like
as she realizes her situation she panics. Then, in an instant, she calms down, slightly smiles
is not important at all. Also describing stuff like "explanatory flashback" is WP:OR - you've moved to describing the editing of the film, and who says this flashback is explanatory? Popcornduff (talk) 23:02, 7 October 2019 (UTC)- The flashback explains why she comes out of her panic of being buried alive, and then slightly smiles. Turning off the flashlight leads directly into the flashback. Fewer words makes sense, "as she realizes her situation" etc. isn't needed, but the transition from panic to calmness (and that slight smile as a key moment in the two film series) instantly followed by the flashback of her mental and physical training with her teacher gives important plot context which is presently lacking. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- A plot is just a sequence of events. We don't need to describe her panic and "slight smile" - it's overkill. Let's keep the summary simple. Popcornduff (talk) 23:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Overkill Bill (lol). I think it's important, you don't. Maybe others will join in. I do agree that my edit should be edited for brevity (thanks, good catch). Yet her panic, followed by that very slight smile and utter calmness which leads directly to the explanatory flashback, seems quite important both to the plot and to understanding the character and sequence of events. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- p.s. and I was wrong about her using her knuckles to smash through the wood, it was her fingertips. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- No. Uses her fist, knuckles' side, then opens her flat hand and touches the wood with her fingertips before each fist hit, lining up the three-inch punch that she perfected under Pai Mei. Jmg38 (talk) 07:21, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- p.s. and I was wrong about her using her knuckles to smash through the wood, it was her fingertips. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Overkill Bill (lol). I think it's important, you don't. Maybe others will join in. I do agree that my edit should be edited for brevity (thanks, good catch). Yet her panic, followed by that very slight smile and utter calmness which leads directly to the explanatory flashback, seems quite important both to the plot and to understanding the character and sequence of events. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- A plot is just a sequence of events. We don't need to describe her panic and "slight smile" - it's overkill. Let's keep the summary simple. Popcornduff (talk) 23:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- The flashback explains why she comes out of her panic of being buried alive, and then slightly smiles. Turning off the flashlight leads directly into the flashback. Fewer words makes sense, "as she realizes her situation" etc. isn't needed, but the transition from panic to calmness (and that slight smile as a key moment in the two film series) instantly followed by the flashback of her mental and physical training with her teacher gives important plot context which is presently lacking. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)