Talk:Joseph Tetley

"Fraudster"?

This article refers to the person as a "fraudster", but the content of the article does not in any way support that appellation. 72.66.107.22 (talk) 08:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I've added further details to the article. tl;dr He conned a few people into investing a lot of money into his business ventures and used that money to borrow even more money (via unsecured loans) - and then pulled an exit scam, leaving New Zealand with all the cash, and leaving his investors and creditors a few thousand pounds out of pocket (a few million nowadays, accounting for inflation), and with no means for them to track him down to get their money back. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 16:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is the best disambiguation method. Sure, BLP doesn't apply, but it's odd that he's done about half a dozen encyclopedic things, and we picked the worst one to be the disambiguator. There are only 2 people listed in Joseph Tetley, and one goes by Joe. Shouldn't this article be named Joseph Tetley, and in lieu of a DAB page, just use hatnotes on each page? Floquenbeam (talk) 18:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @Schwede66: who, in an edit summary during the move to this name, said they'd be open to discussing other disambiguations. Floquenbeam (talk) 18:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

At the risk of over-pinging, also pinging the article creator, @Hugo999:, and @Generalissima:, who moved the page away from this name a while ago, but was reverted. I'll stop pinging now! Floquenbeam (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam I think just Joseph Tetley (or distinguishing by middle initial) would be okay. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

We do not disambiguate by middle name or initial, Generalissima. I’m not sure why I even introduced a disambiguator; Joe is different to Joseph. I suggest we move the disambiguation page to Joseph Tetley (disambiguation) and then nuke the disambiguator from this page. Schwede66 19:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Schwede66: We disambiguate when the commonly used name contains an initial or middle name. See Joseph Smith vs Joseph C. Smith vs Joseph B. Smith. I however agree that a disambiguation isn't necessary here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

No, we absolutely do not do that unless that’s the common name. It’s very typical for that to be used for North Americans, and I note that both of your examples are US citizens. You can find the relevant guidance at WP:COMMONNAME. Schwede66 20:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I've moved the dab page and this one. Schwede66 23:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)