Talk:Joseph T. Ryan

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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Fuhghettaboutit in topic Requested move 24 December 2015

Requested move 24 December 2015

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The result of the proposal was move per request as the common name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:22, 1 January 2016 (UTC)Reply


John Joseph Thomas RyanJoseph T. Ryan – This isn't exactly my area of expertise, which is why I'm putting it out for discussion. I've developed the impression that articles on Catholic bishops are being titled on Wikipedia according to how their names appear on catholic-hierarchy.org and other Catholic-centric sources. When I read this article, the biography begins by referring to him as "Joseph T. Ryan". This causes me to wonder whether we're heeding WP:COMMONNAME in this case or other cases. A cursory Google search shows that sources not associated with the Catholic Church strongly favor the shorter title. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 14:20, 24 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Unless I missed something, WP:FULLNAME pertains to how a person's name appears in the lead, not how the article is titled. I can assure you that Keith Harvey Miller is only referred to by his full name on Wikipedia and whichever cherry-picked sources were referenced when creating that particular article. As can be witnessed here, we have Wikipedians disregarding common name considerations, not to mention WP:KISS and who knows what else, to give undue weight to an anachronistic title. This suggests that Wikipedia has become a little too enamored with its (perceived) self-importance, or is perhaps more interested in trying to influence reality when there's plenty of real work left to do reflecting reality. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 06:09, 31 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
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