Talk:Illinois Freedom Bell
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editI am pretty sure there is only one decade between 1910 and 1920! I leave it to someone who knows what is meant to consider altering the relevant sentence. Amity150 04:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I never got back to you on this. The exact date was found, so we shouldn't have to worry about this issue anymore! Thanks though.--Kranar drogin 02:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
GA on hold
edit- Second sentence in the lead isn’t a sentence: “Located in Mt Morris, Illinois.”
- Fixed, also clarified this is in the United States so there is no question whose Independence Day it is. IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think there should be a bit about what the Liberty Bell and July 4 is, instead of just linking to it, since this bell is a replica and used in the celebrations. Independence, Philadelphia and all that. I don’t think you should automatically assume that every reader will know that Independence Day is on Jly 4.
- I changed the words of the link to Independence Day in the lead and in the first reference within the body of the text. IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- All instances of "Fourth of July" have been changed to "Independence Day". IvoShandor 03:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think the physical description should go after the history. Since the bell was deliberately made as a replica, then the background history should proably go first so that people know why it was made in the first place.
- Random things about the bell
- Do we know the exact %copper and %Zinc or %Tin inside the bell?
- Nope.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder if there are regular amounts these metals are mixed in to form bronze? IvoShandor 02:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Does the bell have any insriptions or patterns on it or is the surface totally smooth?
- Bell has no inscriptions at all on it, and no article has stated that it does. I also reviewed the picture, no inscriptions.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- A more detailed desription of the actual structure from which the bell is suspended is probably a good thing.
- It is basically a glorified gazebo. I have added a bit about its location, and a reference to support that. There do not seem to be any other descriptions, I have a couple more sources to check still. IvoShandor 04:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Do we have any info on the blacksmith who did the casting?
- Where was the bell cast? We know where it was first taken to but what was the departure point?
- No Idea.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- When it was in Geneva Lake was it only used for religious purposes in Church. Was it used for July 4 stuff while in shurch?
- None of the articles I have seen have any history prior to it falling in the church, and I have dug through a lot of periodicals.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Do we know anything about the surfacing procedure?
- Do we know the selling price?
- Orginal selling price I assume, no history again.--Kranar drogin 03:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Do we know who awarded the offical status? Which government official?
- Yes, it states it in the article:
- Five years later, in 1971, the bell was designated the Official Freedom Bell of the State of Illinois.[1][5] A plaque was added to the tower on July 4, 1972 with an inscription from Illinois Governor Richard B. Ogilvie that reads
- Maybe we should clarrify this a bit more...--Kranar drogin 11:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, it states it in the article:
- In what capacity did Reagan come in 1963?
- I have elaborated this slightly to qualify Reagan as an "Illinois native" and "rising Republican political star," he had just switched parties a year earlier and gave a prominent speech a year later at the Republican National Convention.IvoShandor 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I added a bit more about Reagan concerning the Freedom Bell when he was U.S. President, added a new ref too. IvoShandor 04:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Date format is inconsistent. Some have “September 03” and others “10 September”
- I believe this should be all fixed, I followed the format: September 10, 2007. IvoShandor 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I will try and fix some of this in awhile here, if Ivo doesn't beat me too it. A lot of the history of the bell prior to it falling in church has been lost. I will see what I can dig up from my sources, but there is so little literature on this subject, that it is all very hard to find.--Kranar drogin 02:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I concur with Kranar, we both spent time researching this. I will help dig too. IvoShandor 02:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Well I think enough has done to pass GA atm. It would be better if there was more info, but a good effort has been made. Well done. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have put in requests with some other people for information, but I am not sure I will get it. Will try though to flesh out the article even more!--Kranar drogin 01:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
freedom bell about
edittha freeedom bell is very lo9ng and nice go and watch it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.131.166 (talk) 22:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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