Talk:Wave Hill walk-off

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Laterthanyouthink in topic "Gurindji" or "the Gurindji"

40 year anniversary

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I think it would be worth a section reflecting on the enduring importance of this episode. See eg. A history consigned to dust, Celebrating the 1966 Wave Hill walk-off. pfctdayelise (translate?) 09:17, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Pfctdayelise: Go crazy! Put it in!

NPOV and references

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I am concerned that the article does not appear to be written sufficiently neutrally. It is just a feeling but there are some sentences like However, the tide of public opinion was beginning to turn in Australia. and Cabinet refused to even discuss the issue. plus Vincent Lingiari confronted the vast economic and political forces arrayed against him and his people. It is using emotive language. I have prompted for more references - preferably in-line references.Such language should either be attributed quotes or phrased differently. --Golden Wattle talk 19:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. It'd be fine as a polemical article, but per WP:NPOV it shouldn't be so obvious where the authors' sympathies lie. Tearlach 11:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Actually, although references would be good, is there any reason to believe that an alternative viewpoint with sufficient relevance exists? The sections sampled seem like pretty non-contentious statements of fact to me. For instance, there were undoubtably vast economic and political forces arrayed against the gurindji. And the language isn't really emotive, the only adjectives used are vast, political and economic. I think Tearlach, like many, may be seeing emotion that isn't in the language because aboriginal land rights is such an emotive and divisive topic. There is no value judgement, explicit or implicit, made by the language Golden Wattle has sampled. 58.168.250.139 06:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move 20 February 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved no opposition (non-admin closure). TonyBallioni (talk) 17:58, 27 February 2017 (UTC)Reply


Gurindji strikeWave Hill walk-off – The WP:COMMONNAME for this article is Wave Hill walk-off. Compare the Google search results of 12,000 for "Gurindji strike" and 800,000 for "Wave Hill walk off". The same is shown in official sources and newspapers and Google Trends, which shows a >10 times higher search rate. Laurdecl talk 10:00, 20 February 2017 (UTC)Reply


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Consequences not addressed?

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Don't get me wrong about the support for the "affirmative" action taken by the Gurindji and grossly poor conditions faced by them at Wave Hill. What I see though is a failure to "fully" represent the ramifications of the Legacy of the walk-off. I perceive, that in many ways (and in the greater scheme of things) it was perhaps a hollow or Pyrrhic victory. It greatly changed the employment of Aboriginal Australians for both better and for worse and, perhaps, more for the worse. An equality of pay and a shift from what was essentially indentured wages and conditions occurred over a relatively short period of time, in a period of down-turn in the agricultural industry (for climatic reasons and Britain joining the EUC). This lead to a down-turn in employment of Aboriginal Australians, particularly in their "traditional" employments as stockmen and the like and has (probably) had long-term social consequences. My observations are allegorical but I would be surprised if there are no sources along these lines. Perhaps, this might be addressed in the article? Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 14:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Gurindji" or "the Gurindji"

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Several places in the article use "Gurindji" without an article to refer to the Gurindji people, for example "While living at Daguragu, Gurindji drew up maps..." This sounds strange to me, but, before I edit the text, I thought I would find out whether there's a reason for this odd usage. Rks13 (talk) 03:01, 8 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Rks13. I had a look and saw what you meant, plus a number of other deficiencies with the article - so ended up doing quite a bit of tidying. I think that I got rid of most of the instances without "the", except one spot where it looks OK because it's referring to individuals. Anyway, have a look and see what you think. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)Reply