Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev Pizza Hut commercial/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 23:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 23:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Add the "use mdy dates" template so the reference dates are consistent.
• The infobox title should not be in italics.
• The "(filmed in October 1997)" note is not necessary for the infobox and should be moved to #Production.
• "Mikhail Gorbachev with granddaughter Anastasia Virganskaya" →

"{{Plainlist|

• Mikhail Gorbachev
• Anastasia Virganskaya

}}"

• What does "Europe (excluding Russia)" mean?
• There's also no need to link the locations in the infobox.
• Because it still exists, all past-tense words (ex. was) should be changed to words such as "is".
• Infobox says October, lead says November. When was this actually filmed and why isn't it in #Production?
• Remove the comma after "two men disagree"
• "for the victory" → "of the victory"

Content

• Is such a long description needed? Following the rules at WP:MOSFILM, don't mention what the characters/people actually say, but provide a small description of the events.

Background

• "foreign owned" → "foreign-owned"
• "It was the part" → "It was part"
• "others suggests" → "others suggest"
• "Gorbachev assented the under" → "Gorbachev assented under"
• Can the word "assented" be replaced?
• Is the quote from CNN necessary?

Production

• Mention when filming took place.
• "jewellery" → "jewelry"
• "afterwards" → "afterward"

Broadcast and reception

• Combine some of the paragraphs.
• "by Russian" → "by the Russian"

Analysis

• "a by bystander to" → "a bystander to"

Further developments

• None of this section is related to the commercial so, is it necessary to include it?

References

• Add the "|url-access=subscription" parameter to references from Financial Times.
• "www.performancesinvisibles.com" → "Performances Invisibles"
• Washington Post → The Washington Post
• Add the "|url-access=limited" parameter to references from Financial Times.
• Irish Times → The Irish Times
• Link The New York Times, Alessandra Stanley, Time, and Thrillist.
• There appears to be an error with a reference from The New York Times (currently #12).
• New York Times → The New York Times
• The reference from CNN appears to be dead.
• Archive all archivable sources (either manually or with this tool).

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Notes

Hi @Some Dude From North Carolina, thanks a lot for your comments! I have fixed most of the stuff that you mentioned, but have some answers too:

• The infobox title should not be in italics -> the parameter was already set to no, removing it does not change anything. Not sure how it can be fixed.
• Because it still exists, all past-tense words (ex. was) should be changed to words such as "is". -> I am not sure. Yes, the commercial still exist, but things that describe the production is no longer happening, so I think that should be past-tense. Please let me know if I am wrong here.
• What does "Europe (excluding Russia)" mean? -> A European and US version of the advertisement was made according to CNN, but it was not broadcasted in Russia. Russia is part of Europe, so that's why I explicitly exclude it.
• Is such a long description needed? -> The things that are described in the wiki article are quoted from reliable, independent secondary sources, so I think that is warranted. Note that this isn't a long 90-minute film, it's only a commercial of a minute. So because it's so short, I think that these are necessary things to describe for giving an overview. Same applies to the quote from CNN, it explains the reasoning why the primary person of this article participated in the commercial.
• None of this section is related to the commercial so, is it necessary to include it? -> The sources that mention these commercials (such as Time) also mention the Pizza Hut commercial, so I think it can be seen as a continuation.
• The reference from CNN appears to be dead. -> The link seems to work here. Are you talking about this one? http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9712/23/gorby.pizza/
• I can't get the IABot to work due to a permission error.

PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: You can fix the title by changing a ' before and after the words in the "|name=" parameter. You're right that production facts can be in past-tense, I was just noting the first paragraph. Well, if you're going to keep the plot description, combine the last 3 sentences so it's not a bunch of one-liners. Also, remove that space between "Gorbachev Foundation" and "Gorbachev was quoted". Finally, sources have to archived manually, and the CNN reference you linked isn't working for me. Ping me again when you have added comments. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Thanks, I've fixed these issues. Is everything okay now, or is there still stuff that needs fixing? PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: In #Background, change "the New York Times" to The New York Times. Since the CNN link isn't working for me, add or change the "|url-access=" parameter of the reference and make it to "|url-access=dead". Also, combine the sentences in the quote at the end of #Background, the sentences in #Broadcast, and the sentences in #Production. Finally, put The Guardian in italics, and ping me when you reply. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:48, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Thanks again for the constructive comments, I've fixed these things. Is there more that needs fixing? PhotographyEdits (talk) 22:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: I fixed a small repetitive issue, but the article is now in good condition. Thanks for working hard and quickly to fix my suggestions. I will now be passing it. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 22:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)