Talk:Freddie Ljungberg

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Ljungberg played European matches in Halmstad, for example against Parma in the UEFA Cup Winner's Cup in 1995. I'm 100% sure of that, but unfortunately I don't know if he played in more matches (but I think so) so I will not be able to update the table. He must have played against Newcastle in the UEFA Cup in 1996 too, right? If someone knows more in detail, please fill it in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.115.2.197 (talk) 08:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

clubs longest serving player

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what does it mean by this?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.211.239 (talkcontribs)

Of all Arsenal's current players. he's been at the club the longest. It's a common term of phrase.  sʟυмɢυм • т  c  22:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Photo

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That photo isn't the clearest, it could be any bald Swedish player. Perhaps a headshot would be better? PlayCollective 01:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why does someone keep changing the photo back to the Sweden photo? It is outdated and no longer accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.103.131.68 (talk) 22:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Not to mention permissible. - Dudesleeper / Talk 01:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

PLEASE! To anyone reading this, find a suitable picture of Ljungberg that we can use to replace the current image. It is so ridiculous that a couple of users would rather have a picture of him in a jersey he will never wear again, than in a jersey for the club he currently plays for. People on wiki are hyper sensitive to update page facts and stats, but are completely complacent about an outdated picture, and seem to be checking the page every 5 minutes to undo any attempt at uploading an up to date picture. Please, will some Sounders fan with a quality picture of Ljungberg upload it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattyc04 (talkcontribs) 05:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

You dont seem to understand the policies of fair use, we have a free image, that means you dont use a non-free fair use one to replace it. You don't have to have a picture from yesterday. It's not a outdated picture, it's not 20 year old, he's appearance has not changed etc... So how is it outdated? Players don't have to have picture of them playing. But even on that, him in a Sweden shirt is hardly out of order just because he's retired. chandler ··· 05:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Well, he's not actually retired yet. I agree that we should probably only replace a free image with another free image (though I don't think that's policy is it?). Mattyc04, why don't you add the fair use photo to the article for now near the Sounders FC section. I don't think anyone will object to that for now. Someone from Seattle will eventually provide a high quality, free image of him in a Sounders FC uniform I expect that will satisfy Chandlers's concerns. --SkotywaTalk 06:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
retired referred to Sweden. chandler ··· 06:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
The policy is at Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Images_2, point 12. William Avery (talk) 07:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Article title

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I've moved the article back to Freddie Ljungberg, as this is the name used most commonly by the English footballing press to refer to him. There's discussion of this issue currently at WT:FOOTY#Move of Fredrik Ljungberg and Daniel Alves. Probably best following up there with any comments. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have move-protected this at the "wrong version." Please open up a requested move discussion if you want this page to be moved, instead of a discussion on a project talkpage. Regards, Woody (talk) 14:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
I have closed the Requested move request as No Consensus defaulting to no change. There is no consensus to move this page to Freddie Ljungberg, and the comment by ClubOranje sums it up nicely. Regards, Woody (talk) 20:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

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Freddie

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I think we need to fix it, do I have the keep mentioning the FC Seattle Sounders? – Michael (talk) 17:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

While I did argue to move to Freddie, I think the above discussion demonstrates that there is not the consensus for such action, it is unlikely to happen in the forseeable future. – Toon(talk) 17:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Meh. It'll happen eventually, what with it obviously being the right call and all. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Possible return to Arsenal

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I just read an Article on Seattle Times about Freddie Ljungberg possibly returning to Arsenal on loan for the winter. here it is. – Michael (talk) 16:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ljunberg the first player to score a goal outside England?

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This is what the article says. Does this mean the Cardiff and Swansea have never conceded at home in the FA cup? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.70.69 (talk) 08:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

File:Fredrik Ljungberg portrait.jpg Nominated for Deletion

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Requested move 26 August 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Rough consensus for move per common name (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 03:00, 15 September 2016 (UTC)Reply


Fredrik LjungbergFreddie Ljungberg – As shown by Junior Hoilett, Pep Guardiola and Matty James, nicknames can still be common names. Unreal7 (talk) 20:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.Sam Sailor 15:33, 5 September 2016 (UTC))Reply

Those three names, for a start. Unreal7 (talk) 21:41, 27 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Unreal7, WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:44, 28 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Actually, per WP:CONSISTENCY, WP:OTHERSTUFF can be a valid argument in naming and styling debates. However, it has not been demonstrated here why the said consistency should be enforced – some nicknames might be common names indeed, yet others are less common. As Knepflerle said in the previous discussion, and it still seems apt, Usually we use a nickname if it is particularly more prevalent - no evidence has been presented that this is the case.. No such user (talk) 12:28, 31 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
  Relisted - please add new comments below this notice. — Sam Sailor 15:33, 5 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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The only player on Wikipedia that has a nickname rather than his real name as article title

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I know there are past discussions on this, but I just think the article title will get people thinking his name is actually "Freddie", it should be Fredrik. There is no other footballer that have a nickname rather than their real name in their article titles. Mohamed Salah is not "Mo Salah" for example. It just seems a bit unserious. Chronicler87 (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oh, and I've seen Bobby Charlton mentioned as an example of those that have "nicknames" as article titles, but it's important to remember that he was knighted as "Sir Bobby", so in his case Sir Bobby Charlton would be correct. England also has the tradition to give boys a name like Robert and then call them Bob or Bobby all their lives, Fredrik got the name "Freddie" when he came to England. Chronicler87 (talk) 09:12, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

WP:COMMONNAME applies here. There are countless of examples of biographies, not just those of footballers, that are titled in this way. Just off the top of my head there's Teddy Sheringham, Bob Hawke, Andy Cole, Bill Clinton. Your assertion that Ljungberg is the "only player on Wikipedia that has a nickname rather than his real name as article title" is incorrect. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:22, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Bill Clinton was a great player in his days.....

Anyhow, as I already stated, there are differences. People in the anglosphere are given names but called something else from early age, that generally does not happen in Sweden, that's one, second is that he is only known as Freddie in England, and Fredrik in rest of Europe. He is called "Ljungan" in Sweden. Bill Clinton is not called William Clinton elsewhere in the world (great player though). Chronicler87 (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Also, you invoking common name etc, is wrong, he would not introduce himself as "Freddie", it's a moniker given to him by fans. While Bill would introduce himself as "Bill", since that's tradition. Chronicler87 (talk) 15:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Isn't this the English Wikipedia and not the Swedish one?--Egghead06 (talk) 15:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Even in the English wikipedia, that's still not his name, it's still a moniker given to him by fans. Chronicler87 (talk) 15:52, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

And one he seems more than happy to use himself [1].--Egghead06 (talk) 16:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Can you provide a source for that? Chronicler87 (talk) 03:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

I have. See above.--Egghead06 (talk) 05:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

I would not call his twitter handle a source, most people have nicknames as twitter handles. I meant more like an interview or something in which he actually introduced himself as "Freddie", I've never seen it, never seen Beckham introduce himself as "Becks" either. Chronicler87 (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

If you don't like the article title the best way forward would be for you to request a move to whichever title you see as appropriate. Consensus will then prevail.--Egghead06 (talk) 02:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't seem to me that consensus matter anywhere else on Wikipedia =P. Point of this post was to see if anyone could argue against it. Chronicler87 (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Doesn't really matter if people argue one way or the other. Unless you seek to change the name of the article, absolutely nothing will happen.--Egghead06 (talk) 06:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

There already was a consensus though, and it seemed to be "no" to "Freddie Ljungberg" (2009), then people seemed to have kept trying until the consensus (in that much less people seem to have been involved) was to change it to Freddie. Chronicler87 (talk) 08:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Freddie Ljungberg?

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His name is Fredrik Ljungberg. That is his name and that should be the name of the article, not Freddie. Its ridiculous: change it and show respect to him and his family. Orograph (talk) 11:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

You're free to request a move. BarryHero (talk) 09:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 1 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Very clear consensus against the move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 21:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply


Freddie LjungbergFredrik Ljungberg – His name is Fredrik Ljungberg, not Freddie and he is most known as Fredrik. DrKilleMoff (talk) 21:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

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