Talk:List of California floods
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Inaccuracy
editAt least some portion of this page is entirely inaccurate. For example, in the floods of 1861-1862, the estimates of cattle drowned by the flood (200,000 head of cattle) are taken from statewide estimates but are claimed in this page to have been the count for southern California. The flow in the Santa Ana River is generally estimated to have been four feet in depth, but this page claims the standing water was to that depth. This is sadly lacking in care. When I complete the first phase of my research, I will publish them and correct the section on these floods. Unclepea (talk) 05:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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1969 Southern California Flooding
editDo we have 1969 Southern California flooding listed? Found an article on "Southern California's Trial by Mud and Water" by Nathaniel T Kenney, National Geographic. Vol. 136, no. 4 (Oct. 1969). Rjluna2 (talk) 19:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rjluna2 (talk · contribs), I will add it to the article request list. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Geography confusion
editI'm not sure where to put this, but some of the geography is confused. The Russian River and Fort Ross are nowhere near the Sacramento River/Sacramento. They are on the other side of the Coast Range from the Central Valley drainage. The first reference to Ft. Ross being on the Sacramento River (it's on the coast, just north of the mouth at of the Russian) is at Floods_in_California#1909:_California_flood.
The second reference to flooding on the Russian River leading to opening the Sacramento Weir is at #January_2017:_Russian_River_flooding. Indeed, this latter section covers geography all over Northern California, which makes for some confusing reading. But the key point here is that the Sacramento Weir is upstream of Sacramento, CA on the Sacramento River and is used to divert water into the Bypass, taking some of the stress off the levees in Sacramento itself. The Russian River is a completely different watershed.
I'd fix these myself, but I'm not overly familiar with Wikipedia policies and procedures, so I figure I'd flag them here and maybe somebody else could help. Thanks! Katster (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
As you can tell, the links are mangled because I'm not familiar with Wiki syntax and there was no preview for me to see what I was doing. Ugh. Katster (talk) 12:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Katster: This article needs tidying up & a rework/expansion to cover more flood events, as I doubt this article is accurate, accurate.Jason Rees (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
New article
editI would like to expand and improve this article by adding new articles for more notable California floods as I did with the 1997 California New Years Floods. I am not too sure which one to add next, so I ask you to choose. There are following options:
January and March 1995 floods
February 1986 floods
February 1998 floods or the rain year itself
December 1955 floods
1968-1969 floods Big clutch (talk) 00:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work so far! It seems like there might be a lot of events that need to be mentioned. I was thinking of working on this article some day, but wasn't sure how to format it. One thought is that it could be like List of California hurricanes or List of California tornadoes, that is, list each flood sequentially each year. Don't just restrict it to the major floods either. The goal should be to include every flood that resulted in a state of emergency, and any deadly floods. What do you think Big clutch (talk · contribs), or any other users? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously this article needs work one way or another, some of these sections are tough reads. I would suggest doing something like the hurricane and tornado list, but a bit of a difference. Sections should be by decade, major flooding should receive their own subsection within the decade section (and its own article) and minor and or localized floods should be mentioned and a short description provided all in chronological order. New articles should be created for these https://ggweather.com/enso/calif_flood.htm floods and for significant flooding before 1950. Big clutch (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, even the bigger events can have a paragraph with the hurricane and tornado format. The most significant events would have the most information, that's only fair. I converted the article into more of a list, keeping it chronological, but changing it from individual sections to a list. As you suggested, I made it go by decade. That'll show the events that are notably missing, and also highlight which events might have too much information (like the 2017 floods). As for the events, would you mind researching the 1998 event first? There's not any sourcing in this article, but it looks like the rains caused Tulare Lake to reform temporarily, which also happened in 2023 incidentally. There was also a disaster area. I think a top priority should be writing about areas that resulted in disaster declarations. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously this article needs work one way or another, some of these sections are tough reads. I would suggest doing something like the hurricane and tornado list, but a bit of a difference. Sections should be by decade, major flooding should receive their own subsection within the decade section (and its own article) and minor and or localized floods should be mentioned and a short description provided all in chronological order. New articles should be created for these https://ggweather.com/enso/calif_flood.htm floods and for significant flooding before 1950. Big clutch (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)