Talk:Fiat

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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Fma12 in topic Fiat logo colours

Requested move 17 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply


Fiat AutomobilesFiat – Per WP:COMMONNAME, it is simply known as "Fiat". 2601:8C:4580:A1A0:488B:BA9D:A032:6686 (talk) 21:28, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • Support — The last discussion of this (above) had too few participants, and got hung up on the title FIAT in all caps, which is a separate issue, and yes, the MOS would render it as Fiat, not FIAT, but otherwise any argument that Fiat Automobiles is correct per COMMONNAME is misguided. Preferring Fiat is a textbook example of the common name guideline. Nobody uses the term "Fiat Automobiles", everyone just says Fiat, even the most formal reliable sources. Any arguments that Fiat Automobiles is the "official" name are irrelevant. What has to go on legal documents matters not at all for Wikipedia. It should have been Fiat from day 1 and never should have been moved. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. It's known worldwide as Fiat. The actual official name is FIAT which is an abbreviation and not a word, but no one ever calls it that. There is even a Finnish joke saying "Osta Fiat, siinä on kaikki viat", meaning "Buy a Fiat, it has all the faults". It wouldn't work with the abbreviation. JIP | Talk 00:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
According to the article itself, the official name is "Fiat Automobiles", not "FIAT". 94.21.252.238 (talk) 05:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
The article also says "originally FIAT, Italian: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino, lit.'Italian Automobiles Factory, Turin')". Also, please do not modify other people's comments. JIP | Talk 08:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Sorry about that, my cursor must have slipped, I meant it (the rationale per WP:COMMONNAME) to be part of my own comment. Saying it was the official name is different from saying it is. 94.21.252.238 (talk) 01:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

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The entry needs to be expanded; the corresponding Wikipedia page in Italian is much longer, especially the "History" section. JackkBrown (talk) 00:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Fiat logo colours

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(See diff); Fma12, as an Italian I have never seen this coloured logo. JacktheBrown (talk) 12:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

replying @JackkBrown: I did not cite imaginary or fake sources but official sites. What what makes you think that the logo is "not official"?. I'd like reading other users opinions about it. Fma12 (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Fma12: I have modified the comment, let me explain better: since I can't find any newspaper articles about this logo change, it seems very strange to me that Fiat now has a coloured logo. JacktheBrown (talk) 20:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, but I have shown you the sources. You can't find strange the change of colours but it is a fact. And this change is dated more than a year ago so it seems to be a long term for a "temporary" logo. Fma12 (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
By the way, @JackkBrown: I found these sources referring to the new colors: Clásicos al volante (car news) and Stellantis media news (titled "FIAT’s color palette is enriched with two new shades", dated Aug 2023).
Both articles explain with details the reasons for the addition of such colors. I think they are enough proof to consider the logo 'official' and keep it on the infobox until the company decides to change it, of course. Fma12 (talk) 11:34, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply