Talk:Eliteserien
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editAlthough I am tempted to take it on myself, I will pass the torch to someone out there with English native tongue to revise and rewrite this article. I am confident this piece will go over quite well with Norwegian speakers, but it contains an air of linguistical uncertainty, thus quite a few 'oddities'.
agree, Eliteserien , should be Elite Series not translated to League of Norway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.237.104 (talk) 03:29, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Ranking
editAs per 2010, Norway is no longer #19 but #22 due to UEFA coefficient movements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.189.77.46 (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Founding year
editWhy is the league listed as having been founded in 1991? From what I can tell, it only got a name change in 1991, no new separate league was founded this year. Tippeligaen is a continuation from the league that was founded in 1937, and as such the founding year should be 1937. I guess you could also make a case for it being 1972, as 1972 was the first year of the all-Norwegian league that is played today. Tippeligaen was not founded in 1991, however, it only got a new name. I'm going to change the founding year to 1937.
- Agreed! Tippeligaen was not ESTABLISHED in 1991. It was merely a name and format change.
Criteria for "Notable foreign former players"
editWhat's the criteria for "notable"? That they were notable in the Norwegian league (in which case, what are the likes for Solís, Tourray and Mabizela doing there?), or that they have made themself a name somewhere and have had at least a minor stay in Norway? I would suggest that to be listed here the player should have had at least some impact on the Norwegian league. If they are former "big names" they should at least play regularly for a season. Players who later move on to become big should also have made some impact (like Mikel). Havard 13:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Tippeliga-logo.gif
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Problematic text
edit"Its official Norwegian name is Tippeligaen after its sponsor Norsk Tipping, the national lottery and bookmaking service. "
(Gamblling is a worldwide problem.)
1. Wiki is not the Yellow Pages of football sponsors.
2. Suggested text : "Its official Norwegian name is Tippeligaen. " ( End of story )
3. Any other information, might belong in a footnote if wiki-relevant. Cheers, Lithmus Today (talk) 06:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The same should go for Adecco-ligaen Oddsve (talk) 11:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Questioning the name of this article
editWhy is this article named Norwegian Premier League, isn't Premier League just the name of the English football top league? I think the name should be Tippeligaen or Norwegian Tippeliga like for the Swidish Allsvenskan or the Danish Superliga Oddsve (talk) 11:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. I got very confused when I read the article on Christian Bolaños, which refered to the "Premier League side" Viking. Not until I clicked the link to "Premier League" I realized it of course refered to Tippeligaen. You have my support to go ahead and rename (I don't know how to). Nilzor, 10:27, 11 November 2009 (CET)
- As it's called Tippeligaen, in most of the other languages wikipediasites, it should be renamed, why it's called Norwegian Premier League I have absolutely no idea, I will try to fins a way to change the name (though I think it will be difficult). Sznax, 20:18, 10 January 2010 (CET)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Ronhjones (Talk) 22:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Norwegian Premier League → Tippeligaen — As noted in the talk page the name Tippeligaen should be used, as that's the official name and no one calls it Norwegian Premier League. Other leagues such as the swedish and polish leagues has it's official name. So there's no reason not to use it here.—Sznax (talk) 19:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Is the English name Norwegian Premier League? If so, I'll weak oppose on the basis of WP:ENGLISH. I did find a wide number of english language sources (ex:USA Today, Jamaica Observer, Brownsville Herald.. all within the last couple days) that appear to use Norwegian Premier League.--Labattblueboy (talk) 05:54, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not in favor of moving to Tippeligaen, as we would soon be flooded half-anglicized terms like "the Tippeliga" or "Tippeligaen, the Norwegian Premier League". WP:UE should apply, and is there a definitive official English name for this league? Geschichte (talk) 10:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do not have a strong opinion of what this article's name should be. But I think there should be consistency between the national leagues, to use either the local name (Tippeligaen or Eliteserien, in this case) or a descriptive name (Norwegian Premier League). The current descriptive name is ambiguous, since it does not mention in which sport it is the "premier league". The way it is now, the Danish and Swedish Premier League is called Superligaen and Allsvenskan, respectively. So if these league aren't renamed to "XXXish Premier League", I think this article should be renamed to its local unambiguous name.
- When it comes to which of the local names to use, there is a difference between FIFA, the international governing body of association football, and UEFA, who represents the national football associations of Europe. FIFA uses Tippeligaen (Source), while UEFA uses Eliteserien (Source). But no:Eliteserien is also a term used for other sports in Norway, such as hockey (GET-ligaen), handball (Postenligaen), bandy and volleyball, to mention a few. Therefore Tippeligaen would be the best name to choose, if it were to be renamed. This also complies with the FIFA usage, so I will give my support on this requested move! lil2mas (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
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Unsourced statement
editI removed the following statement from the article:
"The league system caused considerable bitterness in the north in the 50's, 60's and 70's (see also: Bodø/Glimt and List of Premier League Champions from 1938 to present time)."
Whoever finds a source for the statement is free to put it back into the article, but without a source it's better to have it here. Mentoz86 (talk) 03:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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Requested move 26 June 2018
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The result of the move request was: page moved. wbm1058 (talk) 16:16, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Eliteserien (football) → Eliteserien – Unnecessary disambiguation and clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, particularly given that Eliteserien already redirects to Eliteserien (football). GiantSnowman 11:57, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Support - per nom. 21.colinthompson (talk) 14:49, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - per nom. Reitimwinkl (talk) 11:46, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support yes, clear ptopic. Sam Sailor 10:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
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