Talk:Cainta Church

Requested move 6 August 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to alternative suggested titles. General consensus to move, but not as initially proposed titles. Alternative titles were suggested and supported. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 15:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Our Lady of Light (Cainta, Rizal) → Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Our Lady of Light
• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Joseph (Baras, Rizal) → Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Joseph
• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Mary Magdalene (Pililla, Rizal) → Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Mary Magdalene
• San Ildefonso de Toledo Parish (Tanay, Rizal) → San Ildefonso de Toledo Parish

– (LMK if I've missed any beyond these four.) @The Anome, @Anißäb have been involved in renaming moves, but I object to the decision to retain their parenthetical locations. There are no other articles by these names, therefore the city names are false disambiguators, and names should be as short as possible considering that the new, full monikers are already comparatively unwieldy. Elizium23 (talk) 07:01, 6 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 10:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support. — The Anome (talk) 13:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Oppose: common names are generally preferred over formal or official names. For the four articles, I suggest: Cainta Church, Baras Church, Pililla Church, and Tanay Church. Antipolo Cathedral is titled as such instead of its very long, formal name. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose as proposed. There are many parishes by these names. In general we do not have separate articles for churches and their parishes, so it may be taken as read that a Church of Our Lady of Light, St Joseph or St Mary Magdalene usually also has a parish by that name, as does the Church of San Ildefonso, Toledo. Just because Wikipedia does not have an exact article by that name is irrelevant in these circumstances. I should also point out that the Filipino articles are poorly named, as they are themselves primarily about the churches and not the parishes. The original moves were poorly conceived and should be reverted and better names come up with. These are parish churches, not parishes. I think there may be a bit of a failure in translation here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose as nominated, move as per JWilz12345. These article refer to churches. See also Taguig Church, which is not in "Archdiocesan Shrine of St. Anne". Howard the Duck (talk) 12:24, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
• Relisting comment There is a general consensus that the page moves as proposed would not move forward. However, relisting for consideration for the alternative proposal by JWilz12345, given that it had received a support by Howard the Duck:

• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Our Lady of Light (Cainta, Rizal) → Cainta Church
• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Joseph (Baras, Rizal) → Baras Church
• Diocesan Shrine and Parish of Saint Mary Magdalene (Pililla, Rizal) → Pililla Church
• San Ildefonso de Toledo Parish (Tanay, Rizal) → Tanay Church

For further discussions, do indicate support or oppose for the alternative proposal. – robertsky (talk) 18:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support this suggestion as stated earlier. (This !vote should not be counted twice.) Howard the Duck (talk) 22:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.