Talk:Occupy UC Davis pepper spraying meme
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Contested deletion
editThis article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because this meme is a fascinating example of how memorable symbols or images take on a life of their own when propagated through social media.
I intend to expand the article as more facts are known about the officer, the context of the protest in which it occurred, and the range of media in which the image has resurfaced. — Gangofnuns (talk) 05:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think this merits its own article. It should probably be merged in with the Occupy UC Davis article. Henrymrx (t·c) 08:33, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'd assert that the "Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop" image has a significance beyond the Occupy UC Davis movement which was its impetus. Too early to tell, however, whether the image will have a lasting significance. — Gangofnuns (talk) 22:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Accuracy of "blocking entry to a building on campus" questionable
editAll the videos of the incident I have watched, and every written description of the event I have read, indicates that the students were seated in a large open area outdoors on the campus. I have found no mention anywhere that they were blocking the entrance to any building. Can you cite this assertion that they were blocking the entrance to a building? --Lunarmovements (talk) 06:21, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Why No Photo?
editShouldn't the lead photo from the Occupy UC Davis article be in this article as well? // Internet Esquire (talk) 06:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Merge/redirect
editIt looks like the article was redirected to Occupy UC Davis and the content copy/pasted over there - I've undone for now, something like that should be discussed here or at WP:AFD. Kelly hi! 05:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Why should a merge of a small stub into a larger parent article be discussed? What is there to discuss? Is it or is it not best practice to merge small stubs into larger parent articles? Viriditas (talk) 05:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- This article had several contributors, so it's probably appropriate to let them weigh in first, along with anyone else who may be interested. The actual proposal is located at Talk:Occupy UC Davis#Merger proposal. Kelly hi! 05:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Typically, there is little to no discussion when merging stubs into larger parent articles. Viriditas (talk) 05:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- I would say this article is at least a Start-class as opposed to just a stub. Kelly hi! 05:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Contrary to what you say, the article is currently assessed as Stub-Class and has five inline references and no sections. Viriditas (talk) 05:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- I second the motion to wait. It is no longer clear that the UC Davis page can serve as the "parent article" for this subject, given that the meme has come to represent overwhelming police violence against protestors in general, rather than just what happened at UCD in particular. I would venture a guess that not everyone who has seen instances of the meme knows from where it derives. There is no rush to make the merge, so lets see what happens in the meantime. Saudade7 07:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think it is abundantly clear that the Occupy UC Davis page—once it is moved to UC Davis pepper spray incident like all protests of its class and type—can and will serve as the parent article for this stub. If, in the future, this article will expand out, then it can be split. Viriditas (talk) 07:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- I second the motion to wait. It is no longer clear that the UC Davis page can serve as the "parent article" for this subject, given that the meme has come to represent overwhelming police violence against protestors in general, rather than just what happened at UCD in particular. I would venture a guess that not everyone who has seen instances of the meme knows from where it derives. There is no rush to make the merge, so lets see what happens in the meantime. Saudade7 07:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Contrary to what you say, the article is currently assessed as Stub-Class and has five inline references and no sections. Viriditas (talk) 05:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- I would say this article is at least a Start-class as opposed to just a stub. Kelly hi! 05:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Typically, there is little to no discussion when merging stubs into larger parent articles. Viriditas (talk) 05:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- This article had several contributors, so it's probably appropriate to let them weigh in first, along with anyone else who may be interested. The actual proposal is located at Talk:Occupy UC Davis#Merger proposal. Kelly hi! 05:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Delete discussion at AFD?
editI also just want to redirect this , it was all cut and copied over to the parent article - I have trimmed it back there now. It has been already objected to - What about AFD? The title clearly has issues - as a meme it is more better as a line in a meme article or meme list imo - Youreallycan (talk) 23:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)