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editThis article has been re-created with more accurate and comprehensive coverage of the subject of this article. Marcd30319 (talk) 22:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
COMCARSTRKGRU SEVEN Official web site
editArchived from the official web site of Carrier Strike Group Seven. Marcd30319 (talk) 22:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Web site's URL
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Leadership
editCommander
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Captain Steve Baxter Commander
Captain Steven Baxter, a native of Lincoln, Rhode Island, graduated from the Community College of Rhode Island in 1979 and Providence College in 1983. After enlisting in the Naval Reserve in 1979, he served with the VP-92 Minutemen at NAS South Weymouth, Massachusetts, as an aviation anti-submarine warfare technician (AX). Commissioned in 1983 via Aviation Officer Candidate School, he was designated a Naval Flight Officer in 1984. Following electronic warfare school, he reported to the VAQ-129 Vikings at NAS Whidbey Island, Washington for training as an Electronic Counter-Measures Officer (ECMO) in the EA-6B "Prowler".
In October 1985 he was assigned to the VAQ-134 Garudas, completing two deployments to the Bering Sea, Pacific and Indian Oceans aboard USS CARL VINSON (CVN 70) before returning to VAQ-129 as a flight instructor in January 1989. While in VAQ-129, he was selected as "ECMO Flight Instructor of the Year" in 1990. While on shore duty, Captain Baxter voluntarily deployed in support of Operation Desert Shield to instruct Navy and Marine Corps Prowler squadrons on improved High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM) employment tactics.
In 1991, he reported to the VAQ-140 Patriots aboard USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER (CVN 69). While in VAQ-140, Captain Baxter completed a Mediterranean/Arabian Gulf deployment. During this tour, he was selected for the AN/ALQ-99 Systems Excellence Award in recognition of significant contributions to the increased utilization of the EA-6B tactical jamming system.
Following his "Super-JO tour" in VAQ-140, he attended the Naval War College and was awarded a Master of Arts Degree in National Security and Strategic Studies in 1994.
Captain Baxter returned to sea with the VAQ-132 Scorpions embarked in USS ENTERPRISE (CVN 65), making another Mediterranean/Arabian Gulf deployment, serving in the Electronic Warfare and Maintenance Officer billets.
Following his department head tour, he reported to the Pentagon in 1997 for joint duty in the immediate office of the Secretary of Defense. As Deputy Chief for "SECDEF Cables", Captain Baxter led a joint team of officers and NCOs in providing the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense with communications, intelligence and administrative support twenty-four hours a day, seven days per week.
In March 2000, he joined the VAQ-136 Gauntlets aboard USS KITTY HAWK (CV 63) as Executive Officer and assumed command in May 2001. As part of Carrier Air Wing FIVE in Japan, VAQ-136 is the only permanently forward deployed EA-6B squadron in the Navy and Marine Corps. During his command tour, the Gauntlets were selected as the EA-6B Maintenance Squadron of the Year and were Golden Anchor award winners for retention excellence.
Following command, Captain Baxter reported to NAS Fallon, Nevada, in September 2002 as Deputy Director of the OSD sponsored Joint Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Joint Test and Evaluation (JUAV JT&E) program, tasked with development of tactics, techniques and procedures for UAV integration in time-sensitive targeting.
In January 2005 he joined the staff of Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN embarked in USS RONALD REAGAN (CVN 76) as Assistant Chief of Staff / Operations (N3) and Strike Group Deputy Information Warfare Commander. While attached to CCSG-7, he made a Western Pacific/Arabian Gulf deployment in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
In February 2007, he reported for a second joint assignment as Division Chief with the Joint Unmanned Aircraft Systems Center of Excellence at Creech AFB, Indian Springs, Nevada. A US Joint Forces Command (USJFCOM) organization, the JUAS COE is responsible for development of joint UAS employment and training for the Department of Defense and other government agencies.
Captain Baxter has accumulated over 3000 flight hours in the EA-6B and more than 770 carrier landings. His awards include the Defense Superior Service Medal, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (2), Air Medal (Strike Flight), Navy/Marine Corps Commendation Medal (3), Joint Service Achievement Medal, Navy/Marine Corps Achievement Medal (3), Naval Reserve Meritorious Service Medal and various unit and campaign awards.
Chief of Staff
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Captain Steve Baxter Commander
Captain Steven Baxter, a native of Lincoln, Rhode Island, graduated from the Community College of Rhode Island in 1979 and Providence College in 1983. After enlisting in the Naval Reserve in 1979, he served with the VP-92 Minutemen at NAS South Weymouth, Massachusetts, as an aviation anti-submarine warfare technician (AX). Commissioned in 1983 via Aviation Officer Candidate School, he was designated a Naval Flight Officer in 1984. Following electronic warfare school, he reported to the VAQ-129 Vikings at NAS Whidbey Island, Washington for training as an Electronic Counter-Measures Officer (ECMO) in the EA-6B "Prowler".
In October 1985 he was assigned to the VAQ-134 Garudas, completing two deployments to the Bering Sea, Pacific and Indian Oceans aboard USS CARL VINSON (CVN 70) before returning to VAQ-129 as a flight instructor in January 1989. While in VAQ-129, he was selected as "ECMO Flight Instructor of the Year" in 1990. While on shore duty, Captain Baxter voluntarily deployed in support of Operation Desert Shield to instruct Navy and Marine Corps Prowler squadrons on improved High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM) employment tactics.
In 1991, he reported to the VAQ-140 Patriots aboard USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER (CVN 69). While in VAQ-140, Captain Baxter completed a Mediterranean/Arabian Gulf deployment. During this tour, he was selected for the AN/ALQ-99 Systems Excellence Award in recognition of significant contributions to the increased utilization of the EA-6B tactical jamming system.
Following his "Super-JO tour" in VAQ-140, he attended the Naval War College and was awarded a Master of Arts Degree in National Security and Strategic Studies in 1994.
Captain Baxter returned to sea with the VAQ-132 Scorpions embarked in USS ENTERPRISE (CVN 65), making another Mediterranean/Arabian Gulf deployment, serving in the Electronic Warfare and Maintenance Officer billets.
Following his department head tour, he reported to the Pentagon in 1997 for joint duty in the immediate office of the Secretary of Defense. As Deputy Chief for "SECDEF Cables", Captain Baxter led a joint team of officers and NCOs in providing the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense with communications, intelligence and administrative support twenty-four hours a day, seven days per week.
In March 2000, he joined the VAQ-136 Gauntlets aboard USS KITTY HAWK (CV 63) as Executive Officer and assumed command in May 2001. As part of Carrier Air Wing FIVE in Japan, VAQ-136 is the only permanently forward deployed EA-6B squadron in the Navy and Marine Corps. During his command tour, the Gauntlets were selected as the EA-6B Maintenance Squadron of the Year and were Golden Anchor award winners for retention excellence.
Following command, Captain Baxter reported to NAS Fallon, Nevada, in September 2002 as Deputy Director of the OSD sponsored Joint Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Joint Test and Evaluation (JUAV JT&E) program, tasked with development of tactics, techniques and procedures for UAV integration in time-sensitive targeting.
In January 2005 he joined the staff of Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN embarked in USS RONALD REAGAN (CVN 76) as Assistant Chief of Staff / Operations (N3) and Strike Group Deputy Information Warfare Commander. While attached to CCSG-7, he made a Western Pacific/Arabian Gulf deployment in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
In February 2007, he reported for a second joint assignment as Division Chief with the Joint Unmanned Aircraft Systems Center of Excellence at Creech AFB, Indian Springs, Nevada. A US Joint Forces Command (USJFCOM) organization, the JUAS COE is responsible for development of joint UAS employment and training for the Department of Defense and other government agencies.
Captain Baxter has accumulated over 3000 flight hours in the EA-6B and more than 770 carrier landings. His awards include the Defense Superior Service Medal, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (2), Air Medal (Strike Flight), Navy/Marine Corps Commendation Medal (3), Joint Service Achievement Medal, Navy/Marine Corps Achievement Medal (3), Naval Reserve Meritorious Service Medal and various unit and campaign awards.
Senior Enlisted Leader
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YNCS(SW/AW) Anthony Tate Senior Enlisted Leader
YNCS(SW/AW) Anthony Tate joined the Navy in July 1989 following graduation from Central High School in Waterloo, Iowa. After basic training at Recruit Training Command Orlando, FL and Yeoman “A” School at Meridian, MS, he was assigned to Precomissioning Unit USS INGRAHAM (FFG-61).
Next, he served at Personnel Support Activity Great Lakes 1992 until 1995, followed by a tour on board USS BLUE RIDGE (LCC 19) in Yokusuka, Japan from 1995 to 1997. There he was advanced to Yeoman Second Class and earned his Enlisted Warfare Specialist Qualification. In May 1997, he reported to VFA-151 in Lemoore, CA embarked on board USS CONSTELLATION (CV-63) from 1997 to 1999. There he was advanced to Yeoman First Class and earned his Enlisted Aviation Warfare Qualification. His next duty assignment was Personnel Support Activity Detachment, Oklahoma City, from 1999 to 2002 and promoted to Chief Petty Officer.
YNCS(SW/AW) Tate reported to Patrol Squadron FOUR in Kaneohe Bay, HI, spending three years on board and deploying to Kuwait and Japan. In February 2006, he began a three-year tour as a Recruiter at Navy Recruiting District Dallas, qualifying as Recruiter in Charge and Zone Supervisor and advancing to Senior Chief Petty Officer.
In April 2009, he reported to Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN, and assumed duties as the Senior Enlisted Leader.
He is authorized to wear the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal (Three Gold Stars), Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal (Two Gold Stars), and various other awards.
About Us
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ABOUT US
USS Ronald Reagan CVN 76
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USS Chancellorsville CG 62
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DESTROYER SQUADRON SEVEN
CARRIER AIR WING FOURTEEN
http://cvw-14.ahf.nmci.navy.mil/
History
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HISTORY
editCommander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN, home ported at Naval Air Station, North Island, Naval Base Coronado, California, is under the administrative and operational control of designated Fleet and Task Force Commanders of the U.S. Pacific Fleet. Established on 22 March 1956 at Naval Air Station Alameda, California, as Commander, Carrier Division SEVEN, the command first deployed to the Western Pacific Ocean onboard USS BON HOMME RICHARDE (CVA31) in 1957.
Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN has been commanded by 36 Rear Admirals and two Captains. The command has completed 34 deployments to the Western Pacific Ocean and Arabian Gulf embarked in 20 Aircraft Carriers, including KEARSARGE, HANCOCK, SHANGRI-LA, LEXINGTON, RANGER, TICONDEROGA, ORISKANY, KITTY HAWK, CONSTELLATION, MIDWAY, CORAL SEA, SARATOGA, AMERICA, ENTERPRISE, NIMITZ, JOHN C. STENNIS, and RONALD REAGAN.
While home ported at Naval Air Station, North Island, Naval Base Coronado, California, Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN is under the operational and administrative command of Commander, THIRD Fleet. During deployment with an assigned Strike Group, operational control is transferred to other fleet commanders depending upon the area of operation. Inheritor of a proud tradition, Commander, Carrier Strike Group SEVEN is as ready today as it was at its founding to meet the challenges ahead.
The Legend of the CARGRU 7 Axe
editThe origins of this mighty instrument lie deep in Greek history. When peace had finally fallen upon their ravaged land, the brave sailors of the Trojan fleet gathered their worn swords and beat them into plowshares. Yet they also sought some means of honoring their fallen compatriots. Consequently, a few of the remaining spears and shields were smelted in the hottest furnaces of Troy, tempered by the most skilled craftsman, and cast into an axe head of epic proportions. A call then went forth upon the land to locate a sturdy oak which might be formed into a handle for this sacred memorial. After days of searching, a young woodsman located just such a tree deep in the virgin forests in which he plied his trade. From that tree he hewed a shaft of incredible strength, and with a warm, luxuriant finish. This powerful handle was soon joined with the mighty axe head to form a moving testament to those Trojans who paid the ultimate sacrifice.
The "Trojan Blade" (as it had come to be called), was soon coveted by the emerging nations of a growing civilization, and possession of it was the cause of many a pitched battle around the world over the following years. Historians are unable to trace its exact path during the 17th and 18th centuries, but its colorful tale is picked up once again in 1853, when the Emperor of Japan presented it to Commodore Matthew C. Perry to honor him on the occasion of his opening of the Meiji Empire to the rest of the world. Since that time, this fabulous trophy has remained in the possession of the U.S. Navy and has been carried into battle by some of its most distinguished commanders.
Its home with the Pacific Fleet was established during the fighting in that theater during World War II; ADM "Bull" Halsey credited his success against Yamamoto's navy to the spiritual strength that he was able to draw from the "Trojan Blade". He subsequently refused to see it transferred from the Pacific and there it remains, now by direction of the CNO. In April 1956, RADM Lester K. Rice took command of Carrier Division Seven, and was presented the "Trojan Blade" by ADM Halsey in recognition of that auspicious occasion. Ever since, the spiritual fire that Halsey found so vital has similarly inspired the leaders of the finest carrier group in the U.S. Navy. The names Clifton, Hardisty, and Arthur are proudly emblazoned upon the tremendous axe as evidence of the great hands through which it has passed.
This mighty axe - born of fire and tested by battle - remains with Carrier Strike Group Seven today. A strong testament to those men who, over the centuries, have given their lives in defense of principles they held dear.
Too long
editThis article is really good, but it's TOO long at almost 200K. It takes a LONG time to load the page. it needs trimmed and subpaged. After it's at DYK, I'd take it through GA, PR, and FAC. PumpkinSky talk 15:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but I'd like to take the assignment of reducing this article like I did with Carrier Strike Group Nine be creating Carrier Strike Group Nine 2004–2009 operations and Category:Carrier Strike Group Nine. This can be done very readily. After that, I'd like to work you about GA, PR, and FAC. Marcd30319 (talk) 20:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- I would strongly support PumpkinSky's comments. There is a large amount of bloat and duplication in this article, such as a complete description of 'Northern Edge', to say just one, which actually belongs at other articles. I'm going to make a few changes and see how much the size drops. Marcd30319, plse feel free to revert, and we can discuss things as we go. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've chopped 15 kB off in the overview and 2004 sections alone, along with several strange references to Carrier Group Three. Doing this throughout would result in meeting normal size limits. Much of this article belongs in other (unwritten) articles like a putative Exercise Summer Pulse article. Instead, it is repeated here in a very detailed form. I strongly suggest that we start a Summer Pulse article, at the very least. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:58, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I hear what you say about waiting for the DYK hook Marc, but could you please recheck your sources on Rear Admiral Walsh? Rear Admiral Walsh is not listed as commander of the CSG, but you list him as both CSG-3 commander and Stennis battlegroup commander twice. Buckshot06 (talk) 14:46, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Buckshot, I fixed it per NNS040726-01].Marcd30319 (talk) 15:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- OK, the problem is that you've got some of the CarGru 7 pre 1 October 2004 history in here. RAdm Walsh seems to have been the last commander of CarGru 7. Would you mind if I added him into the list of commanders? Also I would like if you're happy to move some of the RIMPAC 04 material into the main RIMPAC article - a sentence or two, the basic RIMPAC description. How would you feel about that? Buckshot06 (talk) 16:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think I have squared the Admiral Walsh corner pertaining to the listing of the strike group commanders. Also, see this Defense Department release for additional information. Regarding RIMPAC, in a perfect world, each biennial exercise would have either brief write-up, like Foal Eagle does, or a separate article connected to the main RIMPAC article, so I am open to what you are suggesting.Marcd30319 (talk) 18:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Is there a source on the 15 November transfer of command to Rear Admiral Walsh? It does not match the 1 October 2004 change of designation CarGru to CSG. Re exercises, exactly. That's what I mean about Summer Pulse too. Every carrier group that participated in Summer Pulse would have its size cut considerably if we had Exercise Summer Pulse. The main reason I haven't started in yet was I wanted to know from you whether to call it 'Operation Summer Pulse' or Exercise Summer Pulse. As regards your questions for sections below, I think you'll agree the contents listing is quite long. As we did with the historical background section, I think we do not need every portion of each cruise with a heading. I'll demonstrate, again, with 2004, and you can see the result - feel free to rollback. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think NNS031120-09 will address this. Marcd30319 (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Is there a source on the 15 November transfer of command to Rear Admiral Walsh? It does not match the 1 October 2004 change of designation CarGru to CSG. Re exercises, exactly. That's what I mean about Summer Pulse too. Every carrier group that participated in Summer Pulse would have its size cut considerably if we had Exercise Summer Pulse. The main reason I haven't started in yet was I wanted to know from you whether to call it 'Operation Summer Pulse' or Exercise Summer Pulse. As regards your questions for sections below, I think you'll agree the contents listing is quite long. As we did with the historical background section, I think we do not need every portion of each cruise with a heading. I'll demonstrate, again, with 2004, and you can see the result - feel free to rollback. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think I have squared the Admiral Walsh corner pertaining to the listing of the strike group commanders. Also, see this Defense Department release for additional information. Regarding RIMPAC, in a perfect world, each biennial exercise would have either brief write-up, like Foal Eagle does, or a separate article connected to the main RIMPAC article, so I am open to what you are suggesting.Marcd30319 (talk) 18:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- OK, the problem is that you've got some of the CarGru 7 pre 1 October 2004 history in here. RAdm Walsh seems to have been the last commander of CarGru 7. Would you mind if I added him into the list of commanders? Also I would like if you're happy to move some of the RIMPAC 04 material into the main RIMPAC article - a sentence or two, the basic RIMPAC description. How would you feel about that? Buckshot06 (talk) 16:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Buckshot, I fixed it per NNS040726-01].Marcd30319 (talk) 15:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I hear what you say about waiting for the DYK hook Marc, but could you please recheck your sources on Rear Admiral Walsh? Rear Admiral Walsh is not listed as commander of the CSG, but you list him as both CSG-3 commander and Stennis battlegroup commander twice. Buckshot06 (talk) 14:46, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Article revisions and suggestions
editAs noted above, this article is too long, so my immediate recommendation is to take the same approach used with Carrier Strike Group Nine by creating a Carrier Strike Group Seven 2004–2009 operations draft article. I have also combined the operational years of 2004 and 2005 into one section, and I have trimmed the coverage on the Summer Pulse deployment.
Specific suggestions and recommendations should be discussed below. Just leave those suggestions and recommendations, and I will make the changes. If I have any questions, we can discuss.Marcd30319 (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
The article was extensive re-written based on numerous comments with the aim for improved readability.Marcd30319 (talk) 15:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Historical background
editCommand structure
editCARSTRKGRU 7 Commanders
editDeployment history
editOperational summary
editDeployed force composition
editExercises and port visits
editDeactivation
editContradictory text
edit"Active 1 October 2004 to 30 December 2011.[1][2] "
and "carrier formation whose operational history spanned World War II, the Cold War, and the Global War on Terror.[2]"--Aksstar (talk) 11:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Before it was Carrier Strike Group Seven, it had been Carrier Division 7 and Carrier Group 7, so there is no contradiction because I used the term "formation.". See Background information section.Marcd30319 (talk) 14:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
PR, GA, and FAC
editMarcd30319, would you like me to nominate this article for PR, GA (or maybe A-Class review) and then FAC? I think it has great potential. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. I appreciate the interest. Also, I think the two associated articles will take care of the length issue for the original article. Marcd30319 (talk) 01:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Would you like me to list the article for Milhist Peer Review then, or would you as the main author like to do it yourself? Buckshot06 (talk) 03:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- I saw your initial draft on Summer Pulse. I've been doing a draft as well, and have just placed it in mainspace at Exercise Summer Pulse. Please feel free to write up / change it in any way you like - I'm really not too concerned about that article. Buckshot06 (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Buckshot06, I must have inadvertently created two Summer Pulse articles, so if you can merge them together would be helpful. Also, regarding nomination, it's been some time since I have do this, so do I go for the self-assessment tab at the WikiProject Military history page, and then list this under the Requests for assessment section? Marcd30319 (talk) 22:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, that was confusing. Milhist PR was deactivated a while ago; now we use the main process at Wikipedia:Peer review. The instructions are there; if you would like any help listing it, please say so. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 12:15, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
- Buckshot06, I must have inadvertently created two Summer Pulse articles, so if you can merge them together would be helpful. Also, regarding nomination, it's been some time since I have do this, so do I go for the self-assessment tab at the WikiProject Military history page, and then list this under the Requests for assessment section? Marcd30319 (talk) 22:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Peer review?
editBuckshot06, hope all is well in the Southern Hemisphere. Is this article going through peer review? I haven't initiated that activity, nor is there any evidence of a review taking place. Also, I am confused since your previous revert made no mention of any peer review. Can you clarify? My natural inclination is to keep those changes that I made for consistency and brevity. Marcd30319 (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- As you will see at the top of the page (check the box and Wikipedia:Peer review/Carrier Strike Group Seven/archive1 immediately under the milhist box), I listed the article for peer review, specifically wanting to gather comments upon the changes I had introduced into the standard CSG format. Again, the reason I so tightly edited the article down in size was to reinsert some of the material from the 2004-06 and 2007-09 articles. The page, it my view, can rise to at least 60kB, in line with many other articles. We have a number of disagreements over how these pages ought to be presented, and the way to do that is to gather wider opinions - PR and its associated processes. I'm sorry if you have not noticed the WP:Peer Review taking place, but the tag was inserted at this talkpage some two weeks ago, and the PR has been listed at WT:MILHIST for at least a week.
- Now, I would specifically like comments on the way I have changed this article from the usual format. I do not believe the way you have written these articles properly presents the material. Please allow me to trial the changes I have made, and should you wish to mount a peer review of any of the other carrier strike group articles (or anything else, for that matter) I'd be very happy to help set it up for you (or set it up for you completely myself). Therefore I would kindly request that you either allow me to revert the series of changes to my version, or revert your own recent edits.
- Finally, the direct link to the PR is Wikipedia:Peer review/Carrier Strike Group Seven/archive1. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Comments
editBuckshot has asked me to provide an informal peer review of this article. I have the following comments:
- The topic of the article is somewhat unclear - is this about the 2004-11 unit only, or the units it evolved from as well? At the moment the article tries to cover both topics in some detail, but with the pre-2004 era receiving noticeably less fleshed out coverage (eg, the 'Historical sketch 1944-2004' section is too detailed to just be background, but not detailed enough to sit comfortably with the rest of the article). I haven't read this section in detail on the assumption that it's going to be cut back or split into separate articles.
- "Initially, Night Carrier Division Seven operated as a separate carrier task group within Task Force 38 and operated only at night. When USS Bonhomme Richard (CV-31) arrived, it was integrated into an existing task group, and the commander of Night Carrier Division Seven directed the night operations within that task group. Overall thus Night Carrier Division Seven was a highly-specialized carrier formation." - I might well be mistaken, but I think that this unit also conducted some daytime operations as well in the final months of the war (when the Japanese essentially stopped all efforts to defend their airspace and coastal waters in order to amass forces to contest the expected Allied invasion)
- The way in which US Navy ships are named in the article isn't consistent - italics are only sometimes used, and the numerical designation pops up at times when this isn't needed
- "Also in 2004 the group provided humanitarian relief after the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake." - lots more could be said about this. It should also be noted that the carrier involved had to periodically take periods out of the relief efforts in order to undertake the training needed to keep her air group's flying skills 'current' (which is a good example of why combat aircraft carriers don't make great humanitarian ships).
- "The group deployed to the Middle East on 4 January 2006. Escorts for the deployment included Lake Champlain, McCampbell, Paul Hamilton, and Decatur, accompanied by Rainier." - is it still accurate to refer to CGs and DDGs as simply 'escorts'? These ships have very considerable striking power in their own right, and the carriers don't face much of a threat these days.
- When the aircraft squadrons are first introduced the type of aircraft they operate should be noted. Some material on the typical numbers of aircraft involved would also be useful (from memory, each USN F/A-18 squadron deploys with 12 aircraft, and the number of other aircraft tends to be predictable)
- "During the exercise, an improved sonar system installed in both participating destroyers was used for the first time." - it seems really unlikely that the first time these sonars were used were during an operational deployment (surely there would have been trials after they were fitted to the ships)
- "The group entered the U.S. Fifth Fleet area on 18 February 2006, and fleet commander Vice Admiral Patrick M. Walsh visited Reagan on 27 February 2006.[36] Carrier Strike Group Seven completed operations with the Fifth Fleet on 29 May 2006.[37] During the deployment, Carrier Air Wing Fourteen flew about 2940 sorties over Iraq and Afghanistan. " - can anything more be said about these three months of combat operations?
- "On 9 November 2006, Carrier Strike Group Seven departed San Diego to sustain multi-ship warfare skills through carrying out Joint Task Force Exercise 07-1 (JTFEX 07-1)" (etc) - watch out for jargon with sentences like this
- " Led by the commodore of Destroyer Squadron 21 (DESRON-21) acting as CTF-150’s Sea Combat Commander (SCC), the surface warships conducted sustained operations in maritime interdiction operations (MIO), anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (ASUW), and mine warfare (MW). ASW continued to be the top war-fighting priority" - ditto
- "the forward-based Carrier Strike Group Five" - for some reason the USN loves to call its forces permanently stationed in Japan "forward based". I think that this is jargon or a diplomatic nicety, though I could well be wrong.
- "Amongst the escorts for the deployment were USS Lake Champlain (CG-57), USS Paul Hamilton (DDG-60), and USS Russell (DDG-59)." - can all the ships be identified? (I think that the USN sometimes puts out press releases with these details, so they're not normally confidential)
- "Ronald Reagan entered a six-month, $150-million planned incremental availability overhaul." - this is also jargon (I think I know what a 'planned incremental availability overhaul' is, but most readers won't - 'period of maintenance and refit' or similar means pretty much the same thing)
- Watch out for over-linking ships and people (for instance, in the para which begins with "On 16 November 2007, Rear Admiral James P. Wisecup relieved Rear Admiral Charles W. Martoglio"...)
- When did the 2008 deployment end? (and can more be said about the combat operations it was involved in?)
- "During the deployment, Carrier Air Wing Fourteen flew more than 1,600 sorties supporting troops in Afghanistan. The destroyers Decatur, Howard, and Gridley, and the frigate Thach, supported maritime security operations" - "supporing" and "supported" seems rather passive
- Why are multiple deployments covered in the 2007-09 section, but the 2010 and 2011 deployments covered in individual (and, I think, a bit more detailed) sections?
- I remember reading recently (though I can't remember where...) that some of the USN aircraft involved in Operation Tomodachi have been condemned after becoming contaminated with radiation. From memory, this involved some fairly new Sea Hawk helicopters.
- "Preble provided more than 700 pounds of supplies to earthquake and tsunami survivors" - is 700 pounds even a single helicopter load of supplies? It seems hardly worth mentioning.
- "A deployment highlight occurred on 18 April 2011 when Captain Kevin "Nix" Mannix made his 1,000th arrested landing when he landed his F/A-18F Super Hornet from Strike Fighter Squadron 154 on the flight deck of the Ronald Reagan (pictured)." - what's the relevance of this? (no other crew highlights are ever mentioned in the article)
- When did the 2011 deployment conclude?
- As some general comments:
- The article is focused on a 'dry' narrative of the group's various activities, and highlights only significant events and successes. Lowpoints such as the loss of aircraft in accidents (and combat?), the relief of senior officers for misconduct (a growing trend in the USN), etc, should also be noted.
- A fair bit of material isn't covered by citations
- Almost all the article's references are to USN sources
- None of the four external links seems necessary Nick-D (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Heritage
editNothing on the official website says that it's descended from Carrier Division 7. It looks like the Navy doesn't make a connection between the two formations, despite sharing the same number.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:41, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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