Talk:Ben Jealous
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[racial overtone]
editThe first thing we learn about this guy is that his black mother met his white dad at school? how is that relevent to a neutral story? If his parents' ethnicity is of significance it could be mentioned somewhere later in the article, but inappropriate in the opening summary. -cordovan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.160.66 (talk) 18:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC) There is no way this man has black ancestry. He looks Italian to me.
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editA bit strange that the President of NAACP is not listed as an African-American.
- He isn't "African-American"; he's a mulatto. 38.115.185.13 (talk) 21:02, 31 December 2011 (UTC)HelenChicago
- He is African American because that is how he identifies. The term means an American with African ancestry - not limited to exclusively African ancestry. Many African Americans are of mixed-race, including those whose European ancestry dates to the 19th century or the slavery years.Parkwells (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- How one "identifies" is not the only valid distinction between ethnicities. Rachel Dolezal identifies as black, despite having no African ancestry. If there is a conflict between how someone identifies and their actual genetic ancestry, their self-identification should be qualified, such as saying "they identify as black". Jealous' genetic ancestry from Africa is less than 19% African. As we're no longer living in the days of the "one-drop rule" we should qualify his identification as having more to do with his preference than his ethnicity. Bricology (talk) 21:07, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- He is African American because that is how he identifies. The term means an American with African ancestry - not limited to exclusively African ancestry. Many African Americans are of mixed-race, including those whose European ancestry dates to the 19th century or the slavery years.Parkwells (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
When did it become mandatory to be 100% African-American to lead a group that seeks to advance people of all color? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.85.132.21 (talk) 05:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- The NAACP was founded in 1909 but didn't have a black president until 1975. KCinDC (talk) 05:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- The real leaders of the NAACP from the early 20th century were the executive secretaries, who acted as chief operating officers. For instance, James Weldon Johnson was selected by the board in 1920 as the first African-American exec sec'y, serving to 1930. African-American Walter F. White was executive secretary and leader of the NAACP from 1931-1955, after starting with the organization as an investigator.Parkwells (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
CNN Source
editI changed the source from http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/17/naacp.president/index.html which was a broken link to http://m.cnn.com/cnn/archive/archive/detail/113295/full . I think the same article by the author is posted here as well: http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/05/ben-jealous-35.html --dave1g (talk) 04:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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Move to "Ben Jealous"?
editSeems to be overwhelmingly his commonly used name, both historically and currently used in most news sources - including those already cited in this article. JesseRafe (talk) 16:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- I was about to ask this same question. Might as well make it official. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:32, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 29 June 2018
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Ahecht (TALK
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Benjamin Jealous → Ben Jealous – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Nearly every source refers to him as Ben, as do his social media accounts and his website. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:33, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Agree, no reason to keep it if its never used. Bangabandhu (talk) 08:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support The nom should have been bold and moved the article. I don't think any discussion is necessary, as I can't see how this could move be considered controversial or potentially controversial. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:31, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done --Ahecht (TALK
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He has apparently left Sierra Club
editThey are now referencing former Executive Director Dan Chu as Acting E.D. Info and citations needed (beyond my capacity: so just FWIW). Thanks! Left Central (talk) 14:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Where are you seeing this? He's still listed on the Sierra Club's official website as the ED. Marquardtika (talk) 17:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Well, this is my mistake and probably reflects a cut-and-paste error (Occam's razor). I received a donation solicitation early this morning, and the Chu ED signature appeared on the click-through webpage. I still have the original email and clicked through again, and now the signature has been changed to the generic "The Sierra Club," with no attribution to a name or title. I apologize for wasting your time. I'm sure others noticed, alerted management, and the webpage was fixed (although only partially: one deadline for solicitation perks says "by tomorrow" and a different paragraph says "by July 15"). Thanks for checking and I'm sorry to have forwarded an error. Left Central (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)